Read "Systemantics". Literally every large, complex system ends up eating the people who built it without regular resets.

The book Systemantics, by John Gall, should be required reading. The second edition is probably the best. The third edition is overly long for comedic effect. Also: youtube.com/watch?v=Z9G1Mf6T…

I'm not a "plays d&d and collects Star Wars memorabilia" kind of nerdy. I'm a "studies economics, game theory, cryptography, Japanese production systems, and systemantics because it's fascinating and I'm going to change the world with it" kind of nerdy. Is there a name for that?

«Un sistema complejo que funciona siempre evolucionó de un sistema simple que funcionaba. Un sistema complejo diseñado desde 0 nunca funciona y no puede arreglarse para que funcione. Hay que empezar de nuevo con un sistema simple que funcione». — John Gall, Systemantics (1975)

I agree this is all classic Systemantics. It is so easy to get side-tracked into seeing malice (it is exactly the same category error pitchforkers make, only in reverse). The only answer is to assess the system and incentives and identify where it is going wrong.

Just read “Systemantics” by John Gall. It’s old but you can find it online. Much more fun and will teach you far more than a dry SE book

This is right out of the book Systemantics by Gall. Funding the problem an organization is established to cure. Classic.

You are saying incentives have a tragic and ironic feedback loop that goes against the intention. If I am right it connects with Systemantics by John Gall. He says that a system works against its own proper function. If the system is the NGO its incentives to maintain high numbers of homeless makes the problem worse. The system opposes its proper function. Did I get any of it right?

saw a tweet making some claims idk how to evaluate. but I do know that systems composed of intelligent agents are subject to the laws described by John Gall in Systemantics, whatever those agents are made of.

Uma reflexão que eu tenho tido há bastante tempo, mas só achei as palavras certas pra expressar agora: Boa engenharia precisa de etnografia. Deixa eu explicar. Etnografia é uma sub-área da sociologia - mas também muito usada no design, na psicologia organizacional, etc - que estuda comportamento humano no mundo real. É o contrário de fazer modelos de como as pessoas "deveriam" agir - é observar e registrar como elas agem sem julgamento e sem filtros. Na engenharia, é muito comum a gente ver gente justificando sistemas que funcionam mal ou que são difíceis de manter com "Se tivessem feito direito ia dar certo". "Se tivessem usado Orientação a Objetos do Jeito Certo" "Se tivessem registrado as tarefas usando a Metodologia XPTO" Tudo isso é consequência de falta de etnografia. De tratar pessoas como infinitamente maleáveis e achar que brigando o suficiente você vai fazer as pessoas agirem como quiser, não importa quanto trabalho isso dê. Mas a realidade é que qualquer metodologia que não considere como as pessoas agem na prática está fadada ao fracasso. Um dos meus livros favoritos se chama "Systemantics". Ele é um livro sobre como sistemas funcionam - e especialmente sobre como eles falham. E uma coisa que ele fala é que a maioria dos sistemas estão quebrados, a todo momento. Porque o jeito que eles funcionam no mundo real é diferente da história que contamos sobre como eles funcionam. Pessoas contornam políticas que dão trabalho demais de seguir. Elas dão "jeitinhos". Elas pulam passos. Se sua organização de engenharia não considera essas questões, você vai estar SEMPRE correndo atrás do prejuízo.

Another day, another Indian hardware success story. And this one quietly powers the world’s biggest factories, from India to global manufacturing floors. (One of my favourites) The name is Systemantics, and it’s building a globally competitive industrial robotics company engineered in India. Let’s decode their journey, with the numbers that matter. Origin Story Founded in 1995 by Dr. Subramanian Natarajan in Bengaluru, Systemantics started with a bold belief: India doesn’t just need automation. It needs high-quality industrial robots designed and built in India — not imported at high cost. At a time when industrial robots meant foreign brands like ABB, Fanuc, or KUKA, this was a contrarian bet. Deep-Tech from Day One Most automation integrators import robots and build systems around them. Systemantics chose the harder path: They built the core technology in-house: Industrial robot arms (SCARA, Cartesian, articulated) Motion control systems Servo drives & control architecture Robot controllers & software Application engineering & integration This deep engineering focus became their core moat. Category Repositioning Industrial robots in India were seen as: Expensive • Imported • Large-enterprise only Systemantics repositioned automation as: Accessible • Reliable • India-built Their focus: Indian SMEs Cost-effective automation Local service & customization Faster deployment Automation wasn’t a luxury anymore. It became a productivity tool. Product Breakthrough Systemantics gained strong traction with its SCARA robot platforms, widely used in: Electronics assembly Automotive components Packaging & material handling Consumer goods manufacturing Key strengths: High precision & repeatability Compact footprint Faster cycle times Competitive pricing vs imported robots For many Indian manufacturers, this was their first viable step into robotics. The Big Inflection, Strategic Acquisition In 2018, a major milestone came. Murugappa Group (one of India’s largest industrial conglomerates, $8B group) acquired Systemantics. Why this mattered: Long-term capital support Access to manufacturing scale Strong governance & credibility Global expansion capability This transformed Systemantics from a niche robotics company into a scalable industrial automation player. Manufacturing in India Systemantics focuses on local design and manufacturing, aligned with the Make in India vision. Today: Engineering & manufacturing base in Bengaluru Indigenous robot design capability Supply chain localization focus Faster service and support across India High-end industrial robots — designed and built in India. Market Focus Systemantics operates across multiple industries: Automotive & auto components Electronics manufacturing Electrical equipment Consumer goods Food & packaging Their core value proposition: Global-quality robotics at India-relevant economics. Data & Application Moat Beyond hardware, their strength lies in: Application engineering expertise Process optimization for Indian factories Integration with production lines After-sales support & lifecycle service In industrial automation, execution is the moat, not just the robot. While not a flashy consumer brand, Systemantics operates in the high-impact B2B deep-tech layer of manufacturing. India’s manufacturing future depends on automation. And companies like Systemantics are building the foundation: Where robots are not imported, but engineered. Where automation is not elite, but accessible. Where Indian factories become globally competitive. This is not just a robotics company. It’s part of India’s shift toward Industry 4.0, built from within. Built in India. Automating for the world.

it's really bad that spotify exposes users data, imagine how this shit will be with ai fucking hell might need to read that systemantics book to cope with how bleak this shit is

Самооценка это не то, что тебе формируют в детстве и ты всю жизнь с этим. Нет, самооценка меняется с течением всей вашей жизни и напрямую зависит от того, как вы оцениваете свои возможности в моменте и как часто делаете то, что задумали. Ниже будет небольшой алгоритм того как менять свою самооценку. Спойлер: это долго, сложно и иногда болезненно, но это работает. 1. Необходимо сформировать уровень ваших притязаний и он должен быть адекватным вашим силам. Если вы сейчас зарабатываете 400 баксов в месяц, а хотите в следующий месяц $2к, то вы только угробите свою самооценку и самоощущение. Уровень ваших притязаний должен быть на одну ступень выше того, где вы находитесь сейчас. Так вам будет легче идти выше. 2. Ваши действия должны соответствовать уровню притязаний. Если вы поставили себе цель выше того, что есть сейчас, но не делаете ничего или делаете меньше необходимого, то ваша самооценка гарантированно будет проседать и будет увеличиваться прокрастинация и уменьшаться внутренняя мотивация. 3. Необходимо ввести минимальную зону ответственности, где результат будет измерим, ответственность полностью на вас и оправдания невозможны. Это будет место, с которого ваша самооценка начнет расти. 4. Соблюдайте данное самому себе слово. Начните с небольшого цикличного действия, где нужно делать одно и то же действие регулярно. Заведите для этого действия планнер и ставьте галочку всегда когда это сделаете. Так вы формируете доверие к себе. 5. Ваши ошибки это нормально. Если вы следовали своей планке, сделали выводы и исключили возможность повторения ошибки, то ваша самооценка и самоуважение не пострадают. Если вы все это делаете, то в какой-то момент вы поймаете себя на том, что критикуете себя без разрушения, уважаете себя без потребности это вечно подтверждать, а ваши амбиции без надрыва и самопожертвования. Вы великолепны! Информация взята из книг: Эмоциональный интеллект Путь к характеру Systemantics Ты можешь больше От хорошего к великому Подумайте еще раз Накопительный эффект Одна привычка в неделю И конечно же личный опыт и наработки.

Number 4 best book of the year from Ron: SYSTEMANTICS. THE SYSTEMS BIBLE by John Gall amzn.to/45mLbPK #AskTSOE @ronaldbaker @edkless

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5) Systemantics by John Gall 'don't waste time fixing unfixable things'

korzybski w the systemantics, les ingredients!!

not all capital is moving at all times, only a fraction, just like a machine, capital in of itself is a system and thus the systemantics apply.

you can always revisit systemantics, it is always worth your time