Back in early college, I was reading a lot of toxic manosphere blogs/subreddits to uncover ways to better communicate with women, two ideas stood out:
1) flirting is a zero sum game, you cannot show weakness
2) don't ever ask a woman what she finds attractive, it's like ask a fish how to catch a fish - how would it know what to tell you?
In implementing those principals, I gained temporary confidence and was able to make small improvements in my ability to talk to women and get laid.
However, the medium/long-term effects of those ideas was being inflexible when women would shit-test me, along with the weird belief that no woman could ever possibly give you advice on that they would want to experience when flirting/dating/relating/etc. It also may have greatly aggravated my avoidant tendencies.
After a year or two, I switched to the mindset of: "I'm an interesting person, I want to see if they're an interesting person, and if we don't connect then that's fine, nothing has changed."
The flimsy pick-up lines disappeared and I let my curious personality flow out and ask what was on my mind. It resulted in not just getting laid way more but like 10x the connection with women most importantly disqualifying people low in overall compatibility.
It's like I was playing live jazz music again, both of us tense, yet relaxed, reading each other in the moment - waiting to play the next note. Will it clash? Harmonize? Do we even care as long as the rhythm continues pulsing between us?
I love human improv, I love trying to roll with spicy moments (most of the time), and it's okay if things are messy sometimes. I feel like these ideas are never communicated well to men.
Talia nails what it took me a few years to figure out: good flirting is just a collaborative exercise in figuring out if two people are interesting in similar ways.
The women at SlutCon seem to have been doing the highest good by helping guys understand how to better relate to women in a safe space.
I'm more amazed at every observation I read. I can't wait to go next year!
The more enjoyable flirts for me were things like figuring out something together, like "what's going on with flirting?"
Or things that made me feel like people were curious about me as a person, like "what's it like to be flirted with so much"