Founder at Noumenal Labs. Building Physical AI.

Joined May 2008
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19 Dec 2025
I think @cixliv has it right. Hard not to conclude that the near term use of humanoid robots that makes the most commercial sense is entertainment. Especially, since every demo video from Chinese manufacturers is literally robots performing martial arts moves.
16 Dec 2025
Why humanoid robots, why not? A rant. The humanoid form is the right form if you want generalized ā€œphysical AIā€. As the method to train it will be human data, into a human-like robot. Then economies of scale will make humanoids cheaper than specialized robots due to mass production. Thus making it lucrative to get generalized AI. But there are four main issues: economics, data, hardware and distribution. Economics are a problem because unlike ChatGPT that can be a pocket lawyer (thus saving you $1000 an hour) most blue collar labor is much cheaper. Replacing a $15 an hour job with a $50,000 robot (that will perform more poorly) is not economical. Data estimates are Humanoid robot training data ā‰ˆ 0.000001% to 0.00000001% of LLM training data. The only way we bridge this gap is a massive data collection effort or very robust life like simulators burning through GPU farms all day. Hardware: Humans have around 250 DOF while the top of the line humanoids have around 40 DOF. Although we don’t need all this degrees of freedom that a human has to solve most tasks. Humanoids now only last about 1-2 hours on battery life, most aren’t water proof, and still far from parity with the human body. Distribution: Say we solve all the above 3 issues, we still need to mass produce the robots. ā€œPhysical AIā€ isn’t something we can simply access with a browser or a phone. You need to ship millions of robots in excess of 100-150 pounds that are more complex than cars all over the world. With huge raw materials and rare earth requirements. This will take time. So while everyone knows the future is humanoid, it will take longer than people realize to become disruptive. So don’t worry about those blue collar jobs being taken by robots for a while. But you know what will be lucrative in the meantime? Entertainment. That is why at @rek we are aware of the limitations of humanoids, and will bridge that AI gap with entertainment. Entertainment that will set the framework for a product category that will forever change our world. To become the next F1, with humanoids.
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We are officially entering into the humanoid robotic ā€œgladiatorā€ phase. A natural evolution given where the technology is(strong locomotion, limited agency) and humanity’s enjoyment of sport and entertainment.
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During this year’s NeurIPS afterhours, we’re hosting an intimate gathering of researchers, founders, and investors exploring the intersection of computation, thermodynamics, and embodied intelligence. If you’re working at the edge of alternative architectures, stat-phys-inspired ML, or embodied intelligence, you’ll feel right at home. What to expect: • Thought-provoking conversations on alternative compute paradigms • A curated group of technologists & builders • Great food, great drinks, great company Hosted by cyber•Fund, Noumenal & collaborators. Registration & approval required: luma.com/tqgzktjg Looking forward to connecting with the people shaping the next chapter of intelligent systems. @mjdramstead @cyberfund
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New blog post by @noumenal_labs: ā€œWTF is the FEP? A short explainer on the free energy principleā€: noumenal.ai/post/wtf-is-the-… Really happy to share this one! We discuss the free energy principle: What it is, what it is not, what promise it holds, why it can be extremely useful, and why it has yet to live up to the hype.
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New blog post by @noumenal_labs: ā€œGrounded rewards in the era of experience: A commentary on ā€˜Welcome to the era of experienceā€™ā€: noumenal.ai/post/grounded-re… Here’s the tl;dr: • This post is a commentary on a new paper by Silver and Sutton, entitled ā€œWelcome to the Era of Experienceā€ (2025). • Silver and Sutton (2025) provide a thought-provoking discussion of the last decade of research and development in the field of artificial intelligence (AI), and where the field is heading. The core idea is that we have reached a performance ceiling for AI agents trained via supervised learning from human data — and that we have entered a new epoch in the development of AI, which the authors call the ā€œera of experience.ā€ • The era of experience, as the authors describe it, is a forthcoming phase in the development of AI that will be characterized by ā€œgroundingā€ in the real world, online action-perception loops, physical embodiment, environment-sourced reward signals, and online real-time experiential learning. • In particular, Silver and Sutton argue that the era of experience heralds a shift from hand-crafted, user-specified reward functions and the heavy use of human expert feedback and supervision, towards ā€œgrounded rewards,ā€ which are measured and evaluated by AI agents themselves by continually assessing the sensory consequences of their actions in real time. • Here, we review and evaluate their argument. We enthusiastically embrace several aspects of their discussion and offer some constructive feedback pertaining to the learning of grounded reward functions.
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Physical AI is a new frontier that presents challenges beyond the scope of current approaches to AI. Deep Learning works great in use cases where data is abundant, but in the physical world data is sparse and ever-changing. This necessitates a new set of architectures. Let's go!
I’m thrilled to share a blog post by @noumenal_labs: ā€œFrom Natural Intelligence to Physical AIā€: noumenal.ai/post/from-natura… Here’s the tl;dr: • Physical AI is the next big wave of research and development in the field of artificial intelligence. Its proponents claim that Physical AI holds the promise of revolutionizing industry. • But state of the art AI will not deliver on these promises, because it is not capable of understanding the structure, variability, and complexity of the physical world that we inhabit. • Noumenal Labs is a newly formed deep tech company that is laser focused on building digital brains for Physical AI — so it can be deployed profitably, efficiently, safely, and at scale. • We are using our unique, proprietary macroscopic physics discovery technology to build object centered world models that will power the brains of autonomous systems — unlocking machines that can act in intelligent and situationally appropriate ways in the real world, and that can adapt to a changing world in real time. • Driven by key insights from statistical physics and cognitive science, in particular by Karl Friston’s active inference framework, the approach pioneered at Noumenal Labs unlocks the capability of machines to represent the physical world in the same way we do, enabling them to act safely and in alignment with human values — and thereby, to deliver on the promise of Physical AI.
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Neuroscientist Dr. Jeff Beck from @noumenal_labs discusses the fundamental nature of representation, understanding, and modelling, comparing biological intelligence with current artificial intelligence. Jeff argues that *how* information is represented dictates predictive ability and that LLMs, while impressive at symbol manipulation and pattern matching (like next-word prediction), lack the *grounded*, causal understanding of the world inherent in biological systems. Timestamps: 00:00 - Cat visual cortex experiments & discovering orientation sensitivity (slide projector analogy) 01:49 - Representation choice and neural coding (orientation vs. feature intensity) 02:30 - Choice of representation impacts predictions; generative models 03:15 - Importance of choosing the right generative model for predictions 03:35 - The problem: We don't know the brain's true generative model 03:55 - Theory of Mind (ToM) in LLMs 04:05 - Jeff Beck's ToM tests on early ChatGPT (stapler example) 05:40 - ChatGPT recognizing the ToM test vs. passing it 06:32 - Analogy: LLMs recognizing known problems vs. generalizing (sum/product riddle) 07:25 - Do LLMs implicitly build world models? Vicarious experience analogy 07:59 - The difference: Grounding symbols in reality outside language 08:35 - AI Alignment: Difficulty in capturing human reward functions & belief formation 09:21 - Nightmare scenario: Humans as "complacent value function selectors" 09:44 - Hope: AI enhancing human understanding, not replacing thought 10:08 - Philosophy of science: Science realism vs. modeling pockets of regularity 10:39 - Noise in models as ignorance or deliberate exclusion (design choice) 11:00 - Design choices in science, controlled experiments, and induced bias 11:29 - Are there true, discoverable mathematical laws of the universe? 11:41 - Is there a "true" ground truth distribution (P)? Beck's answer: No (with nuance) 12:55 - Ontological vs. Epistemological divide: Perfect models vs. models of regularities 13:21 - Are scientific models "false by definition"? The Bayesian perspective 14:07 - "All knowledge is conditional"; Are foundational theories (e.g., FEP) true or just perspectives? 14:51 - FEP as a mathematical framework, not a theory; models are just models 15:54 - Legibility vs. Utility: Useful but illegible AI models 16:01 - Prediction vs. Explanation: Trusting black boxes can be unsatisfying 16:30 - Why understanding AI matters: Ensuring alignment with human decisions/values 17:08 - Line-of-sight legibility as an alignment approach 17:14 - Benefits of explainable AI: Human understanding and value alignment verification 18:21 - RL components: Prediction engine, reward function, policy; the alignment challenge 19:25 - Trusting AI = Trusting its policy aligns with our reward its superior beliefs 19:57 - Language: Intrinsic representation vs. pointers between shared minds 20:21 - Why language works: Shared internal models and common grounding 21:00 - Basis of shared understanding: Not linguistic, but shared experience/intuitive physics 22:44 - Consciousness and language as lossy, simplified summaries of complex brain processes 23:22 - Evidence for simplification: Brain regions, perception vs. representation; limits of language models 24:32 - Counterpoint: Language captures complex/ambiguous human concepts 24:54 - Language as massive compression: The information bottleneck (Meister's paper) 26:22 - Implication: Language/actions are poor representations of internal understanding 27:03 - Can language models understand? The mimicry argument (Piantadosi) 27:33 - Beck's skepticism: LLMs excel at prediction/mimicry, not true understanding 28:09 - LLM explanations replicate structure but lack grounding 28:54 - Beck's test for LLM understanding: Genuine novelty beyond training data 29:19 - Summary: Symbol manipulation is not understanding; grounding is key 30:06 - Abstraction and Idealization in scientific modeling ("The Brain Abstracted") 30:45 - Revisiting Newton: Intuitive physics is correct for our world; idealizations are simplifications 32:01 - Sophistication & boundaries: Nested systems vs. one complex system? 32:32 - The boundary problem in FEP/Markov Blankets: Where to partition? 33:41 - Beck's research: Finding principled partitions based on interaction dynamics 35:44 - Beyond direct experience: Imagination, language, and learning 36:16 - Human creativity: Creating new *things* by combining modeled objects (Systems Engineering) 37:43 - Goal for AI: Automating systems engineering for creative combination 38:17 - Sutton's "Reward is Enough" paper 38:25 - The challenge of "Reward is Enough": Defining and obtaining the *right* reward function 39:02 - Difficulty of eliciting individual reward functions 39:52 - The core alignment problem: Accessing and representing individual reward functions 40:13 - Impossibility: Disentangling beliefs and rewards from observed actions 41:51 - Argument analogy: Disagreements stem from different beliefs or values 43:00 - Prerequisite for value inference: Understanding belief formation 43:13 - Building aligned systems: Sparsity of data, meta-models vs. base system modification 43:46 - Proposed solution: AI layer that models the human's belief formation system 44:40 - Alignment process: Align beliefs first, then address value differences 45:00 - Conclusion CC @mjdramstead
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Build the world you want to see
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Beautiful work
In the physical world, almost all information is transmitted through traveling waves -- why should it be any different in your neural network? Super excited to share recent work with the brilliant @mozesjacobs: "Traveling Waves Integrate Spatial Information Through Time" 1/14

ALT Visualization of the hidden state of a wave-based RNN processing an image of a hexagon. The model learns to use wave dynamics to compute a unique frequency-space representation of the shape, allowing it to distinguish it from other shapes in the dataset.

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New blog post by @noumenal_labs: ā€œAI alignment and theory of mindā€ noumenal.ai/post/ai-alignmen… Here’s the tl;dr • In this blog post, we discuss the approach to AI alignment pursued by Noumenal Labs • The goal of AI alignment is to develop methods and protocols that ensure that artificial agents make decisions and execute actions that are consistent with the goals and values of humans. Technically speaking, this means designing machine intelligences that share a policy or reward function with their human users. • This is an important goal. But state of the art approaches in artificial intelligence are not designed in a way that can deliver on these promissory notes. • There is no normative solution to the problem of reward function selection. Expert trajectory replication, reinforcement learning with human feedback (RLHF), and the automated generation of reward functions from the stated preferences of users are not viable solutions to the AI alignment problem. • The missing ingredient for AI alignment is the capacity to take the perspective of another and evaluate their beliefs — what is known as theory of mind.
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New blog post by @noumenal_labs: ā€œFilling the gaps in active inferenceā€ noumenal.ai/post/filling-the… Here’s the tl;dr • In this blog post, we discuss active inference. Specifically, we discuss key gaps in state-of-the-art applications of active inference in artificial intelligence — and how Noumenal Labs is working to fill them • Active inference is a form of Bayesian machine learning that replaces the objective function used in traditional machine learning — the cost or reward function — with an information theoretic surprise minimization objective, which is used for both inference and learning. • While theoretically well grounded, active inference has yet to yield state of the art performance in practice. • This gap in performance is largely due to the relative simplicity of the generative models, underlying state space, and relationships typically used in the active inference literature. Generically, these models lack the requisite structure to represent the world as we understand it, i.e., as composed of distinct objects and object types, as well as object-type-specific interactions, unless hand-specified by the user. • Noumenal Labs is developing a new approach to macroscopic physics discovery which enables us to build machine intelligences that discover the different objects/concepts and object/concept types that generate time series data, as well as the type-specific rules that govern their behavior — doing so directly from data, in an unsupervised manner. • Noumenal Labs’s approach is to build models that are explicitly structured — in a manner that is consistent both with the means by which we intuitively understand and conceptualize the world, and the means by which our best scientific models describe it.
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I’m happy to share the new @noumenal_labs preprint, ā€œDynamic Markov blanket detection for macroscopic physics discovery,ā€ by Jeff Beck and me arxiv.org/abs/2502.21217: Here’s a thread! This paper resolves a key outstanding issue in the literature on the free energy principle (FEP), namely, to develop a principled approach to the detection of dynamic Markov blankets. The FEP has been proposed as a generalized modeling method capable of mathematically describing arbitrary objects that persist in random dynamical systems; that is, a mathematical theory of ā€œeveryā€ ā€œthing.ā€' The FEP starts with a mathematical definition of a ā€œthingā€ or ā€œobjectā€: any object that we can sensibly label as such must be separated from its environment by a boundary. Under the FEP, this boundary is formalized as a Markov blanket that establishes conditional independence between that object and its environment. Nearly all work on the free energy principle has been devoted to explicating the dynamics of information flow in the presence of a Markov blanket, and so the existence of a Markov blanket is usually assumed. Garnering significantly less interest is the question of how to discover Markov blankets in the first place in a data-driven manner. Accordingly, in this preprint, we leverage the free energy principle (FEP), and the associated constructs of Markov blankets and ontological potentials, to develop a Bayesian approach to the identification of objects, object types, and the macroscopic, object-type-specific rules that govern their behavior. This is accomplished by reframing the problem of object identification and classification and the problem of macroscopic physics discovery as Markov blanket discovery. More specifically, we develop a class of macroscopic generative models that use two types of latent variables: (1) macroscopic latent variables that coarse-grain microscopic dynamics in a manner consistent with the imposition of Markov blanket structure, and (2) latent assignment variables that label microscopic elements or observations in terms of their role in a macroscopic object, its boundary, or the environment. Crucially, these latent assignment variables are also allowed to evolve over time, in a manner consistent with Markov blanket structure. As such, this algorithm allows us to identify not only the static Markov blankets that have concerned the literature to date, but also — and most importantly — to detect and classify the dynamic, time dependent, wandering blankets that have caused controversy in the literature since the turn of the 2020s. This allows us to model the exchange of matter and energy between an organism and its environment, but at the cost of massively expanding the set of Markov blankets that we need to consider. We handle this additional complexity by applying the automatic Occam’s razor effect of Bayesian inference to select the best partition. In developing this algorithm, we provide an empirical, definitive conclusion to the debates about whether objects like flames and living creatures, which undergo material turnover, have Markov blankets. We demonstrate that they do, providing simulations that identify the Markov blankets of Newton’s cradle, a burning fuse, a Lorenz attractor, and an artificial lifeform generated by Particle Lenia. We also make philosophical and theoretical contributions to the free energy principle. We offer a new, deflationary take on the free energy principle, focusing on the role of the modeler. In the extant literature on the free energy principle, the role of surprise minimization is treated tautologically, not empirically: the idea is that ā€œthings minimize surpriseā€. Our treatment focuses more on the pragmatics of empirical modelling, where the role of surprise is better summarized as ā€œlabeling something as an object of a specific type minimizes my surprise.ā€
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We’re very proud to share the @noumenal_labs white paper, ā€œHow To Build A Brainā€: noumenal.ai/how-to-build-a-b… 1/7

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Now hiring! Introducing Noumenal Labs (noumenal.ai/), a new deep tech company focusing on multiscale, multimodal time series modeling, object-centered causal physics discovery, continual learning, and energy-based architectures 1/5
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New blog post by @noumenal_labs. We discuss data prediction versus data explanation in the design of artificial intelligence — and why we think AI agents should be designed to behave like curious scientists: noumenal.ai/post/why-ai-shou… Here’s the tl;dr 1/7
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It’s a relief to read about something other than AI hype. And here’s where I admit that I am experiencing major #VisionPro FOMO this weekend.
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Is it just me or are LLMs the new blockchain? Remember when every problem was a problem that could be solved by sticking it on a blockchain?
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