Evan Spiegel on the invention of Stories â a feature thatâs used by billions of people every day:
âWhen you're working on new technology it's so exciting and inspiring that you can lose focus on its impact on people.
We start with people.
[Steve Jobs and Edwin Land did too]
That was the core inspiration of stories.
People were saying:
"Why is my social media feed in reverse chronological order?â
âWhy is it permanent?â
âWhy am I feeling judged all the time by how many likes or comments I have?"
So we asked how have people told stories forever?
They told stories in chronological order.
Stories werenât permanently saved forever.
They werenât publicly judged and liked.
And so it was just very obvious for us to develop a product where all the images and videos were in chronological order.
They were deleted after 24 hours.
You could start your day fresh the next day.
Stories didn't have these likes and comments, which opened up this whole new world of self-expression.
Because instead of just trying to post what would look pretty, or popular, or perfect, people were sharing this whole range of human emotions.â
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Talking to Evan made me think of what Steve Jobs said:
Technology should enhance human creativity.
When I heard Evan speak about inventing stories it reminded me of this insight from Steve:
Products should come to the user.
The reason that Apple is able to create products like the iPad is because we've always tried to be at the intersection of technology and liberal arts, to be able to get the best of both, to make extremely advanced products from a technology point of view, but also have them be intuitive, easy to use, fun to use, so that they really fit the users. The users don't have to come to them, they come to the user."
I found my conversation with Evan fascinating. I hope you watch it!
My conversation with
@evanspiegel, co-founder & CEO of
@Snap.
0:00 Edwin Land Influence
2:01 Art Science Upbringing
3:27 Computers And Connection
5:50 Smartphone Addiction Lens
9:30 Building For Humanity
13:15 From Internships To Snapchat
17:02 Snapchat vs. Social Media
18:38 Stories And Vertical Video
22:22 Uncompromising Kind Culture
28:34 Snap Leadership And Design
37:38 AI Supercharges Snap
41:57 No Moat In Software
42:31 Beating the Clone
43:50 Messaging Network Effects
44:58 Camera Out of Pocket
45:49 Specs Market Reality
48:28 AR Platform Explosion
52:14 Vision-Led Product Design
54:09 Why Not Luxottica
59:11 Owning the Stack
1:03:02 Snap the Middle Child
1:08:04 Crisis Without Burnout
1:10:02 Snapchat Plus Growth
1:12:54 Rebuilding the Ad Engine
1:19:03 Subscriptions Over Ads
1:21:14 Fighting Giants With AI
1:22:04 Why Hardware Stands Alone
1:25:29 Snap Lab Origins
1:25:59 New Apps Beyond Snapchat
1:28:29 Focus And Founder Drive
1:32:14 Surfacing Problems Fast
1:36:08 Flat Culture Meritocracy
1:39:36 Last Company And Giving Back
1:41:15 Turning Down Billions
1:48:51 Snapchat Funds New Computing
1:51:24 Crucible Year And Schedule
1:53:56 Stress Reframed Meditation
1:56:09 Explainer In Chief
1:57:07 Closing
Includes paid partnerships.