Pacers Draft, Free Agency & Trade Talk
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14 Jan 2022
I feel like now is a good time to put this out there.
I HAVE ZERO SOURCES.
I’m just as lost as all of you. I just repost what I read or hear, and try to do it so you don’t have to read and listen to a thousand podcasts.
That is all. Enjoy trade season.
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There is one other play I forgot to mention that came in at 5’10” for draft combine measurements, similar to Braden Smith (who measured at 5’10”).
Rick Carlisle’s very own…
JJ Barea
For context, these are the draft measurements (or college measurements) for other shorter PGs (w/o shoes):
Ryan Nembhard 5’11”
Jose Alvarado 5’11”
Fred VanVleet 5’11”
Chris Paul 5’11.75”
Davion Mitchell 6’0”
Trae Young 6’0.5”
TJ McConnell 6’0.5”
Jalen Brunson 6’1”
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We all know that Evan Sidery is not a source.
Now that that’s out of the way, let’s imagine this were an actual package framework from the Pistons.
As a Pacers fan, what is a better offer that you think the Pacers could come up with that you’d support?
Jun 13
A potential trade framework involving Trey Murphy III to the Pistons, who have recently registered interest:
Detroit: Murphy
Pelicans: Isaiah Stewart, Ron Holland, No. 21 overall, 2028 1st, 2030 1st
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For context, these are the draft measurements (or college measurements) for other shorter PGs (w/o shoes):
Ryan Nembhard 5’11”
Jose Alvarado 5’11”
Fred VanVleet 5’11”
Chris Paul 5’11.75”
Davion Mitchell 6’0”
Trae Young 6’0.5”
TJ McConnell 6’0.5”
Jalen Brunson 6’1”
May 11
2026 AWS NBA Draft Combine anthro measurements for Purdue’s Braden Smith:
5’10 ¼" barefoot, 166.6 pounds with a 6’3 ¼" wingspan and 7’9 ½" standing reach
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“We assume [Trey Murphy] is probably going to get traded over the next 3 weeks. I think Boston is a possibility. We thought whoever lost this matchup was a possibility. There’s a couple other teams. But, you have 2 to 3 weeks to trade for someone like that.”
(@rBillSimmonsPod)
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Jeff Teague to Trey Murphy:
“If you get traded to the Pacers you’ll probably be an All-Star.”
(via @OldManAndThree, @club520podcast)
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An attempt at a “Desmond Bane Type Offer”
Pacers:
Trey Murphy
Pelicans:
Obi Toppin or TJ McConnell
Jarace Walker
Ben Sheppard
1st from 2027, 2031, and 2033
1st round Pick Swaps for 2028 and 2030
I think all of this checks out by NBA rules. Let me know if it doesn’t though.
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Thanks @the2kmessiah for catching the 2029 pick that the clippers have.
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Pelicans have alluded to needing a Desmond Bane type offer for Trey Murphy. And to be honest, I think they’ll probably get it.
Mikel Bridges went for 4 1sts (and a swap). And so did Bane.
So the question is, are you willing to trade 3-4 1sts for Trey Murphy, plus salary?
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The prophecy is being fufilled
25 Aug 2025
Continuing my delusion that Trey Murphy will be a Pacer one day…
First step, sign his former Virginia teammate
Second step, sign his former Virginia Team Manager
Third step, hello Trey Murphy. Welcome to the Pacers
Let me be delusional just this once.
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More food for thought:
The Clippers will have our pick the year that Siakam, Zubac, and Nembhard will have become free agents.
Siakam will be 34
Zubac will be 31
Nembhard will only be 28
What do we think the Pacers will look like for the 28-29 Season to remain competitive?
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I see a lot of people asking “what better center could you have gotten for the package.”
I think that’s a fair question.
Let’s approach it a different way.
What would have rather had:
Trey Murphy and a lesser Center
Or
Zubac and a lesser complimentary player
18%
Trey Murphy/Lesser Center
82%
Zubac/Lesser Comp
34 votes • Final results
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2025 Revisionist History:
Pacers take Maxime Raynaud instead of Kameron Jones.
How would this have changed the Pacers current situation?
Kameron Jones selected #38
Maxime Raynaud selected #42
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Teams don’t often let players hit UFA.
Because of this, the Pacers will be left with the decision at the end of next season to either extend Zubac or trade him.
This leverage for Zubac could very likely result in an overpay or a one-year rental.
This will be interesting.
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Let’s say the Pacers get the 4th overall pick in 2026. Who do they take?
82%
Caleb Wilson
5%
Keaton Wagler
2%
Flemings/Mikel Brown
12%
Trade The Pick
794 votes • Final results
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Thinking out loud:
What is the long-term plan with Zubac?
He’ll be 31 by the time he’s an UFA.
Do the Pacers plan to resign him? Will they attempt to trade him to risk not losing him for nothing?
Did the Pacers pay as much as they did for a 2 year rental?
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Every fan base will force a silver-lining. It’s human nature. The Bucks fans did it for the longest time with Myles Turner. I don’t want to be a part of doing the same.
Two things can be true:
The Pacers overpaid
and
The Pacers got a very good center for the next 2 years
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My only request is that we stop saying “3 years” when referring to Zubac’s deal.
For all intents and purposes it’s 2 years. Zubac could sit this entire year and that would make us happier, I would assume (higher chance at a better pick).
So let’s just call it 2 years, not 3.
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“The Pacers and the Wizards were the two spots that we have been hearing are going to be waiting to give Walker Kessler an offer sheet if they can’t trade for him right now.”
(via @JakeLFischer)
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19 Nov 2025
Thanks everyone for playing
It’s my fault for not putting the bulk of the information in the initial post.
I wanted this to ultimately be a dialogue about at what point from #1-5 would you consider trading for Trey Murphy.
Myself, I’m around #4 or #5.
Limited characters suck
19 Nov 2025
Hypothetical:
Pacers get the number #1 overall pick. You can either draft the pick or trade a package of Toppin/McConnell and Jarace Walker along with the pick for Trey Murphy.
Which do you do?
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