Polanski speaking in favour of a cooperative model of public ownership. It's hard to square the idea that the 2015-19 Labour Party was an intellectual wasteland with the fact that the 2026 Green Party is adopting and adapting the work done then.
Zack Polanski on renationalising the water companies,
“I talk a lot about nationalising the water companies.”
“We also need to be clear that, in and of itself, is not a socialist policy.”
“It’s a policy that I think is strongly important.”
“I think it moves us towards socialism.”
“But actually, that should be the first step.”
“Ultimately, we need much greater worker control.”
“So I’d go further than the question actually.”
“I’d say I’m more than just interested.”
“I would say this is crucial if we’re going to change society in the ways that I’ve been talking about today.”
“We know these changes cannot come from the top down.”
“And again, it might sound odd as a political leader to say this, but they’re not going to come from political leadership.”
“They’re probably not solely going to come from political parties.”
“They’re going to come from workers.”
“They’re going to come from workers on boards making their decisions about how things go.”
“Now, the reason why I talked about water companies is I want to talk about an odd thing that’s just happened in London, or happened last year.”
“So I’ve been talking to Sadiq Khan, the London Mayor, for a while now about nationalising Thames Water, the water company.”
“And I am not coming here to slate Sadiq.”
“He’s one of the better Labour politicians.”
“But we do have disagreements in times and this is one of the more telling.”
“He said, “I don’t have the power to do that.””
“He didn’t seem really interested in the conversation.”
“At one point he said he wasn’t the leader of a political party and he didn’t have the platform I do.”
“I had to remind him that the Mayor of London does have quite a big platform.”
“And talking about water nationalisation would not go unignored and might mean Keir Starmer had to talk about it a little bit more.”
“Anyway, he wasn’t willing to do that.”
“So then I went at a lower stage and I said, “In many water companies across Europe, they have political representatives on the water boards.””
“So even if it’s privately held, there are still people who are democratically elected who are there to make decisions.””
“And he still wasn’t willing to go that far.”
“And so we have a huge gap right now between where our political system is, which is they don’t even think there should be democratic governance on privately held water companies, and what are public goods and vital goods for so many people, whether we’re talking about water or indeed food.””
“But that still wouldn’t be enough.”
“It’s not just about democratic governance.”
“We should have workers and the people who understand those industries in those rooms helping to make those decisions.”
“So absolutely, a cooperative model, a worker-led model, I don’t think should be an if.”
“It needs to be a when.”
“Because we know right now, with all the problems in our society, they are only going to get worse unless we have a much stronger grassroots, community-led approach to everything in society, but particularly the workplace, particularly businesses, to make sure that the people who are producing and the people who are making the work happen are also there, making sure that they’re vitally involved in the decisions, and also they’re being paid properly and treated with dignity and care.”