Imagine if there was a comic after Jason died and Batman refused to take another sidekick but there was a character that showed up and reminded him the Robin mantle was worth to be kept alive and going, and even the original Robin agreed with it later, just imagine
robin should've died with jason. the only reason it still exists is because dc didn't want to lose robin fans. story wise the continuation of robin makes batman look like an abusive man exploiting children to do something that literally killed one before
A trillionair, yet his name does not appear on a single school, university, library, museum wing, hospital, stadium, arena, airport, or endowed chairs. What a colossal waste of a human lifetime.
Iโve read second chances twice, you can like Jason and admit outside of all the retroactive โJason was always incidiousโ references, he was not that different.
The feisty street kid personality was not the divergence you think it is, especially compared to the other
robins and lasted all of like 2 issues. His change in attitude prior to a DITF lasted also just 2 issues.
Maybe if you have consumed his character through nothing but his greatest hits and cultural osmosis you might be disillusioned into thinking he was significantly distinct.
Does it have to be completely the same to be not different enough? Itโs the same story beats, Jason needed Bruce to come like Dick did. He needed a home and he needed Robin.
Tim didnโt.
Further expanding upon this, Freud's theory of repressed memory is the keyhole to this idea, with Harvey and Zsasz coming from old money/aristocratic families with troubled dynamics, Dr. Arkham's experiments are given cover through careful psychological manipulation.
the idea of zsasz being a product of experimentation upon the aristocratic class of gotham is baller, picture sigmund freud dr. arkham meets mk ultras trials at arkham aslyum, a sleeper cell who does the bidding of the court through a singing of a certain nursery rhyme.
The Batman 2 info revealed by Chris Stanley:
- Victor Zsasz, played by Sebastian Stan will display various scars and tattoos all over his body
-Harvey Dent, played by Brian Tyree Henry, will appear as Two-Face in the film, and the makeup will be practical
Matt Reeves fans about to cry in a corner lowkey if this is true but Iโd actually be happy because this isnโt predictable!
So weโll see how this goes. They want this big Harvey Dent spectacle. So โReeves can outdo Christopher Nolanโ
At his core Superman is a loner and him having a super family in modern comics has taken away stories that portray his loneliness, isolation and alienation which is tragic.
Please understand what I mean when I say that Tim Drake revolutionized the role of Robin:
Batman saw that Dick Grayson needed rescuing.
Batman saw that Jason Todd needed rescuing.
TIM DRAKE saw that BATMAN needed rescuing.
He doesnโt have the same hard luck backstory, he was priveleged, he sought out the role himself, he still had parents that he had to hide his Robin identity from, didnโt live with Bruce, his entire character design was different, he was much tech savvy and less of a hyperactive
How is Tim distinct? He's the reheated version of Pre-crisis Jason. A boy eager to prove to Bruce that he could be Robin and looked up to Dick Grayson his entire life. That's literally Gerry Conway's origin story
kid or vengeful orphan which both Dick and Jason would swing back and forth from. He had his own rogues, he had his own allies, he was much more independent and scrappy than either previous Robins.
He chose to be Robin for Robins sake, not to heal himself or to get justice.
Dickโs family was poor, and he lost them to organised crime. Jasonโs family was poor, he lost his dad to organised crime and mother ran off I guess, although he thought she died.
Dick had the circus, so he had a bit more love in his life, but you can see why Jason doesnโt feel
nearly distinct enough? Both were intent on staying in their imperfect yet familiar conditions, unfit for a child, before Bruce took them in.
Tim had a family and sought it out himself. He was privileged but lonely.
Yes and No. In pre crisis, Jason was the first kid Bruce ever formally adopted and he fought hard for custody of him. Post crisis Jason represents how Batman's methods don't protect everybody. His entire character is a critique of the effectiveness of Batman in Gotham.
Jason's death is one of the most impactful in Batman comics. It showed that there were real consequences to child sidekicks. His impact will always be felt, and no one denies that because it fundamentally changed Bruce and his behavior and the mantle in a way.