happy pride month to aroaces who feel ZERO romantic or sexual attraction and identify as gay/lesbian/mspec via other attractions (alterous, sensual, platonic, aesthetic, etc)

Sexuality and gender is something everyone experiences differently, so im not sure why people are so mad when someone who identifies as trans, lesbian, gay, bi, mspec, etc. Sees their respective labels a bit differently than others.

yeah, wbk any orientation can be mspec. it's more often a given than not

This is common with gay/lesbian/straight ppl who want to be "inclusive" of nonbinary genders without acknowledging that they're attracted to multiple genders, in much the same way every other mspec person is attracted to multiple genders.

I never said anything about how someone should id. the person I originally responded to said "there is no such thing as a bisexual person who only likes women and non binary ppl this is a lesbian person, not bisexual", erasing how that kind of mspec attraction is also bi .

"ppl who are attracted to multiple genders but come up with a variety of reasons why their multi gender attraction is different than all other mspec orientations, including requiring attraction to both binary genders for mspec orientations & degendering nbi genders, are biphobic"

Most bi ppl I know both consider it an umbrella term but also staunchly enforce it being the only umbrella term, often claiming biphobia if ppl of other mspec orientations want to use a non-bi umbrella. You'll have to take this up with the majority of the bi community.

I wanna also add that on the wlw/nblw side of things, I’m tired of seeing pairs be called “lesbians” when one is mspec. You’re looking for the term “sapphics” instead

i do feel like the whole “men can be lesbians” and “mspec lesbian” conversations are annoying but then again it’s hard for me to gaf when my personal experience with lesbianism is just me dating other cisgendered women.

usuallypwople who are multigender and mspec identify more with gaybian, if they feel like their attraction to men is mlm, and their attraction to women is wlw. sure you could see it as bisexual but theres people who prefer gaybian as a term

Oh I'm all for not having bi as the main umbrella term. There's also plurisexual. I like both. But most bi ppl throw a fit if bi isn't treated as the only real mspec orientation. And most of them can't pick a definition without making snide remarks about other mspec orientations.

I think the bi activists from a san francisco social networking and magazine publishing group who are inclusive of all mspec orientations and who were writing about the west coast bi scene in the late 80s to early 00s are a fine representation of bi opinions.

men attracted to women & various nonbinary genders often id as straight, same way gay men attracted to men & various nonbinary genders are encouraged to id as gay, not bi, under the idea that "everyone is attracted to nonbinary ppl" instead of recognizing their mspec attraction

I am oppressed so I'm gonna opress another even smaller group duhhhh get that mspec hate of my tl 😂 lesboy boydyke pride to everypony