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phrases like "not a third gender", "included/always included in all orientations", & "not part of the binary" are catchy ways to feign inclusivity without having to do actual work around recognizing & affirming there being more than two genders
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many "nonbinary inclusive" ppl have a self-serving possessiveness of nonbinary ppl where their acceptance of other genders relies entirely on their own feelings/comfort with no thought to how assumed inclusion in generally binary focused spaces impacts ppl who aren't man or woman
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Such a weird hill to lie about and block me over. Like, what was the play here? Was it something this person actually believed? That what the op literally said was not real? Or was it a trolling thing? Maybe not knowing the convo context and not wanting to admit it afterwards?
Replying to @LargoLentoVento
No. The op is very clear that she thinks that attraction is based on appearance and not gender and doesn't think ppl can be attracted based on gender if no one can guess via appearance what gender someone is. Anyway, sorry you don't think this is exorsexist.
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Blocked, but the continued replies are an interesting response to someone who isn't a man or a woman discussing other genders not being recognized as equal to man and woman when it comes to multi gender attraction.
Replying to @papiezbutch
It's odd that you thought I was talking about multigender ppl and not abinary ppl.
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Replying to @OrangeYouGlad38
... attraction, ppl decided to toss nonbinary genders in general into every orientation and claim that we no longer count in multi gender attraction. Partially cause ppl do not think there are actually more than one gender, partially cause they don't want to id as bi.
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*actually more than two genders
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folks hate the idea of having to take other genders into account & think about how someone who isn't a man or a woman might not be okay being included in attraction historically focused on one binary gender/grouped with one binary gender, similar to how binary ppl feel about that
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shocking. folks are performative about there being more than two genders in order to paint themselves and bisexuality as inclusive only to turn about and reenforce the binary.
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the blatant exorsexism
Replying to @s0ftw4v3
When will people learn that nonbinary is not part of gender so it doesn't need labels. Even straight people can be attracted to them cause there isn't specific look. We live in two-gender society and that's how we describe attraction.
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Bi covers all kinds of multi gender attraction, it's not just attraction to all with no pref.
Replying to @s0ftw4v3 @Abyawb
Isn't liking all genders and having no preference the same as being pansexual? I'm confused as to what makes them different, I'm serious someone pls explain
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Nonbinary is both a gender and an umbrella term of many different genders. Attraction to multiple fifteenth genders is only monosexual if the nonbinary ppl involved have included themselves in monosexual attraction.
Replying to @s0ftw4v3 @Abyawb
no. bisexuals like all genders bc it's impossible to like only 1 gender another that's not the opposite without falling into a monosexual label. if you like only women or men nb = monosexual. if you like only men women, or only nb = transphobe bc nb ppl are not a 3rd gender
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lots of "inclusive" ppl have really not reckoned with the idea of there being more than two genders in any meaningful way
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blocked. but what do you think you meant? esp after saying you couldn't id as bi cause you're not attracted to men? you're either viewing "nonmen" as a single gender, nonbinary genders as not "real" genders, or binary genders as the only genders counting in mspec attraction
Replying to @chwrryfemme
you can't like multiple genders using a definition about multiple different genders loving multiple different genders? oh, I get it. you're exorsexist.
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Ppl shouldn't be afraid to id as bi! No, I don't mean ppl who are attracted to multiple different genders! Only ppl who are attracted to both binary genders! Being attracted to multiple different nonbinary genders is just like being attracted to only one of the binary genders!
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What are you confused about? I was asking the op about the limits of the proposed inclusion for women & nonbinary ppl who want to id as lesbian but who also miaspec. So far it was possibly only bigender straightbiens who are both man & woman & I was curious if there was more.
wtf are you talking about????
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it doesn't get talked about much because ppl who include nbi ppl in all attraction tend to not see our genders as equal to the binary genders or they see the binary genders as the only genders that affect attraction. also, there are plenty of mspec ppl with stable attraction
Replying to @plainpotatotay
talk about much. but that’s why the word monosexual feels like it doesn’t fit bc it suggests just attraction to one gender rather than about how attraction is experienced? idk i feel like the word is what causes most confusion tbh
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nonbinary ppl are trans and a different gender than assigned but also those genders do not count in multi gender attraction but also you're transphobic if you're not attracted to nonbinary ppl but that does not mean you're attracted to multiple different genders in a mspec way
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I must use nonman and nonwoman to add nonbinary ppl to orientations because there is no other word for nonbinary ppl that would make it clear that I'm including nonbinary ppl other than these exclusionary and binary prioritizing terms for nonbinary ppl
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"person they have an emotional connection to", that's the only people demisexuals can have sexual attraction towards. for some this aligns with the target gender/s of their other attractions, for others the only thing they know is it's ppl they have an emotional connection to.
does it say who you’re attracted to? if not, it’s not an orientation or a sexuality
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the lack of sexual attraction is why it's part of the asexual spectrum. demisexuals are functionally asexual until a prerequisite is met. that's not a relationship dynamic, there's no choice in the matter and there's no guarantee that if in a relationship attraction will happen.
Replying to @q_squared_
Claro, pero si lo importante de la demisexualidad fuera la falta de atracción sería ASEXUALIDAD. Lo importante de la demisexualidad es que la atracción sexual existe CUANDO HAY UN VÍNCULO EMOCIONAL. Eso es una dinámica relacional
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has nothing to do with establishing a romantic connection. demisexuals may experience romantic attraction easily & still not experience sexual attraction. an emotional connection doesn't need to be romantic & doesn't guarantee sexual attraction will happen.
this maybe cause i’m autistic but this is literally my normal? and im sure even if i weren’t neurodivergent, this would still be my normal cause it is the most sane way to proceed in terms of establishing a romantic connection with sumn?
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re the recent pol les talk seeing a lot of "you can't just choose to id as lesbian if you're actually bi" from ppl who then go on to use new defs of lesbian that redefine it as attraction to multiple genders folks just love their rules for thee but not me shit
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