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𝐋𝐮𝐤𝐞 𝟏𝟑:𝟐, 𝐀𝐌𝐏:
𝐉𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐬 𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐥𝐢𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦, “𝐃𝐨 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐤 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐬𝐞 𝐆𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐬𝐞 𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐆𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐬𝐮𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐝 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐰𝐚𝐲?
𝐋𝐮𝐤𝐞 𝟏𝟑:𝟐, 𝐆𝐍𝐓:
𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐉𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐬𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐝, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐬𝐚𝐢𝐝 𝐮𝐧𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐦, 𝐒𝐮𝐩𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐞 𝐲𝐞, 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐬𝐞 𝐆𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐠𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐫 𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐧𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐆𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐧𝐬, 𝐛𝐞𝐜𝐚𝐮𝐬𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐬𝐮𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐝 𝐬𝐮𝐜𝐡 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬?
Now without the inclusion of the word “other” at Col. 1:16, which is used in translating _pas_ at Luke 13:2, this verse could be understood to mean that Jesus created all things when it was “through [Jesus] that God created everything in heaven and on earth,” making it clear that God created Jesus as well as all other things, which conclusion would contradict trinitarian dogma. Like
@CertainSpeaks, I reject the trinity doctrine as unscriptural, but I realize you are someone that accepts the trinity doctrine.
𝐂𝐨𝐥. 𝟏:𝟏𝟔, 𝐍𝐀𝐒𝐁:
𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐛𝐲 𝐇𝐢𝐦 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝, 𝐛𝐨𝐭𝐡 𝐢𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐧𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐧 𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐡, 𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐧𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞, 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐬, 𝐨𝐫 𝐝𝐨𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬, 𝐨𝐫 𝐫𝐮𝐥𝐞𝐫𝐬, 𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐞𝐬—𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐛𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐇𝐢𝐦 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐇𝐢𝐦.
𝐂𝐨𝐥. 𝟏:𝟏𝟔, 𝐍𝐈𝐕:
𝐅𝐨𝐫 𝐢𝐧 𝐡𝐢𝐦 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝: 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐢𝐧 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐧 𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐡, 𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐧𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞, 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐫𝐮𝐥𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐞𝐬; 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐛𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐡𝐢𝐦 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐡𝐢𝐦.
𝐂𝐨𝐥. 𝟏:𝟏𝟔, 𝐄𝐒𝐕:
𝐅𝐨𝐫 𝐛𝐲 𝐡𝐢𝐦 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝, 𝐢𝐧 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐧 𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐡, 𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐧𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞, 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐝𝐨𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐫𝐮𝐥𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐞𝐬—𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐡𝐢𝐦 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐡𝐢𝐦.
𝐂𝐨𝐥. 𝟏:𝟏𝟔, 𝐀𝐌𝐏:
𝐅𝐨𝐫 𝐛𝐲 𝐇𝐢𝐦 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐢𝐧 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐧 𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐡, [𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬] 𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐧𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞, 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐝𝐨𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐫𝐮𝐥𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐨𝐫 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐞𝐬; 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬 𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐞 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐞𝐱𝐢𝐬𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐇𝐢𝐦 [𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐢𝐬, 𝐛𝐲 𝐇𝐢𝐬 𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐭𝐲] 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐇𝐢𝐦.
𝐂𝐨𝐥. 𝟏:𝟏𝟔, 𝐆𝐍𝐓:
𝐅𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐡𝐢𝐦 𝐆𝐨𝐝 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐢𝐧 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐧 𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐡, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐮𝐧𝐬𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐬, 𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐥𝐮𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐬𝐩𝐢𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐮𝐚𝐥 𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫𝐬, 𝐥𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐬, 𝐫𝐮𝐥𝐞𝐫𝐬, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐞𝐬. 𝐆𝐨𝐝 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐞 𝐮𝐧𝐢𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐬𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐫𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐡𝐢𝐦 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐡𝐢𝐦.
One thing I do want to say to you,
@ThyPaddyDaddy, since you brought up Col. 1:16 and you may not believe what I’m about to say here is true: Being close-minded or (worse!) a religious bigot will prevent you from accepting the fact that you will encounter people that do not agree with you, but this doesn’t make these people wrong, and just as I could be mistaken, you could be mistaken. On this platform, we should listen, but there is real need on our part to argue or to bash those with whom we disagree.