My HelloSign account got suspended randomly? wtf?? I've signed like 100 investment docs on this and have a dozen I need to access right now

@Dropbox What happened here?

@HelloSign Do you care to explain?

@grok is docuseal legally the same as docusign and hellosign and dropbox sign, just verify it legally like lawyer i know answer but want you to prove it

wow.....did HelloSign send you email copies of the signed docs as they were completed? I think they email a PDF to everyone automatically.

i hate dropbox, their customer support is the worst, and their management team never responds. i would prefer ftp and rsync over dropbox hellosign. im sorry you're going through this.

@grok also compare it to hellosign

Hellosign? Or Docusign ?

- $DOCU 투자 시 유의해야 할 리스크 • 성장률 둔화 및 포스트 코로나 역기전: 코로나19 팬데믹 시절 비대면 계약 폭발로 엄청난 주가 랠리를 펼쳤으나, 리오프닝 이후 성장률이 한 자릿수(8~9%대)로 내려앉으며 과거의 고성장 프리미엄이 많이 희석됨. • 치열해진 경쟁 환경: 어도비 사인(Adobe Sign)이나 드롭박스의 헬로사인(HelloSign) 등 거대 테크 기업들이 저가 공세를 펼치며 시장 점유율을 야금야금 위협하고 있음.

6. You can send contracts and collect signatures inside GoHighLevel. No DocuSign. No HelloSign. No separate tool. Proposal sent → signed → contact updated → workflow triggered. The entire sales process in one platform. #Gohighlevel

DocuSign charges $15/month per user for basic signing. Adobe Acrobat Sign starts at $14.99/month. HelloSign charges $15/month. And every contract, NDA, and offer letter you send goes through their servers. Someone built a complete open source alternative. Self-hosted. Your documents never leave your infrastructure. It's called DocuSeal. 16,100 stars on GitHub. You upload a PDF. Drag and drop your fields. Signature here. Date there. Initials. Checkbox. File upload. You send the link. Your client signs from their phone. Done. Fully executed document. No account required on their end. Here's what it does: → WYSIWYG PDF form builder. Drag fields onto any document visually. → 12 field types: Signature, Date, File, Checkbox, Initials, and more. → Multiple signers per document. Route to different people in sequence. → Automatic PDF eSignature with cryptographic signature verification. → Automated email delivery via your own SMTP. No third-party mail relay. → Files stored on your own disk, AWS S3, Google Storage, or Azure Cloud. → Full REST API and Webhooks for integrations with your existing stack. → Embedded signing forms for React, Vue, Angular, and vanilla JavaScript. → Bulk send via CSV or XLSX spreadsheet import. → Mobile-optimized. Signers can complete documents on any device. → 7 UI languages. Signing available in 14 languages. → One Docker command to deploy. Running in minutes. Here's the wildest part: DocuSign processes over a billion transactions a year. Every single one of those documents touches their servers. Your employment contracts. Your client NDAs. Your acquisition paperwork. Your personal signatures. All sitting in DocuSign's cloud. All subject to their retention policies. All one breach away from exposure. DocuSeal can never leak your documents to a third party. Because your documents were never on their servers. DocuSign Business Pro: $65/month per user. $780/year per user. Adobe Acrobat Sign: $14.99/month. $179.88/year. HelloSign Essentials: $15/month. $180/year. PandaDoc Business: $49/month per user. $588/year per user. DocuSeal: $0. Unlimited documents. Unlimited signers. Your server. Your storage. Forever. 16,100 stars. 1,460 forks. Battle-tested since 2023. Actively maintained through 2026. AGPL-3.0 licensed. Self-hosted. Free forever. 100% Open Source.

Every day for the next long while, I'm going to tear down a new public software co and highlight the AI risks/opportunities for it- products launched, top startups, key earnings call quotes, etc. Day 33: Dropbox $DBX, which trades close to the median SaaS multiple despite -2% ARR growth (!!) Peak share price: $39.60 (Jun 15, 2018) Share price today: $24.02 (-39%) EV today: $8.28bn ARR today: $2.53bn (-2% Y/y) NRR: N/A- not disclosed EV/ARR: 3.3x GAAP Operating Margin: 25% EV/Run-rate GAAP EBIT: 13x Headcount: 2,133 (-3% Y/y) What Dropbox does: Dropbox is the pioneer behind synced-to-cloud storage, starting out with a freemium offering aimed at consumers before expanding into a suite of enterprise-ready document management tools, including Docsend, HelloSign, backup (Dropbox Backup) and colloboration (Paper). Unlike similarly-named rival Box, a significant share of Dropbox's users are individuals with either free/paid plans, leading to inferior retention dynamics. AI bear case: It's a little challenging to paint an AI bear case for Dropbox- many of the fears folks have for software broadly have already happened: commodization, pricing pressure, bundled competition, etc. and I'm not sure AI will accelerate them. If AI does accelerate the decline someone, it will likely take the form of less emphasis on file storage going forward- information might live in living applications, rather than the Powerpoints, Word Docs, etc. that inhabit Dropbox today. AI bull case: Like Box, Dropbox sits on a huge wealth of contextual data, and its multi-way sync feature, while commoditized, creates user stickiness and ensures it will have continued access to the documents people create and store in at least some enterprises for a long time to come. The bull case takes the form of Dash, Dropbox's AI product which is effectively a high-end enterprise search feature that allows for "living workspaces" based on searches as an alternative to folders. AI traction: None disclosed, and unlikely that anything substantial exists given reported numbers. Adjacent startup summary: There aren't any startups going after storage specifically, but I'll give an honorable mention to @airHQ which is in my portfolio and competing with Dropbox for a specific filetype: images and videos. :) Management Quotes: "And in 2025, our priorities were focused on strengthening our core business and scaling Dash in pursuit of returning to revenue growth." "Our next focus area is what we call Dash, which represents the most important evolution of the Core FSS experience in years. Dash and Dropbox provides an AI intelligence layer directly inside our customers' everyday workflows with minimal setup and immediate relevance. In Q4, we launched embedded Dash capabilities inside our Teams plans, including semantic search, chat and stacks organization and sharing, and we're rolling it out in phases to eligible Dropbox Teams customers. We're seeing solid early engagement among the initial Dash and Dropbox cohorts. In Q4, over half of these active users returned multiple days per week, which is evidence that Dash is providing value and becoming a part of user workflows." "Stepping back, here's how all this comes together. Our Core FSS business is stabilizing and showing credible paths back to growth. Dash is both a force multiplier for core and a stand-alone AI opportunity, while sales-led growth and AI data security expand our addressable market." "And then looking ahead, it kind of dovetails with what I said before, we've got this really powerful -- we see the big bottleneck in AI generally as this gap between AI tooling and your company's context. We've been building that missing context layer for AI. We built a whole new generation of technical infrastructure to facilitate that. As the world starts turning towards more agentic capabilities or people having their own agents, then there's a lot of new opportunities for that context engine to help make those agents actually able to connect to your work context, like to connect to your Gmail and your Salesforce and your Dropbox and everything else, not just the local files and your computer, which is the current limitation for a lot of these things." Commentary: In many ways, Dropbox is most noteworthy in that it represents the fear ahead for SaaS companies- no growth, free/bundled competition that has it surrounded with superior distribution (Microsoft, Google, etc.), and a relatively thin claim to being a "system of context" but no real ability to aggregate the additional data required for compleness- aka an input into an agent's decision, perhaps a valuable tool call, but not a central or core system. The most striking aspect as I write this is that Dropbox trades either in-line with or at a premium to: Salesforce $CRM Klaviyo $KVYO HubSpot $HUBS Workday $WDAY Braze $BRZE DocuSign $DOCU Gitlab $GTLB Elastic $ESTC et al Despite each of the above having much stronger growth stories (and in most cases, a more plausible/credible AI bull case). In short, yes, profitability DOES matter for SaaS companies today, at the lower bound. It couldn't be clearer.

PandaDoc Starter is $19 a user a month and locks payment collection behind the Business tier at $49 a user. HelloSign and DocuSign treat proposals like an afterthought bolted onto an e-signature tool. HoneyBook and Bonsai bundle in CRM features I don't need and charge for all of it. None of them really work for the actual freelancer or the three-person agency. They work for the 50-seat sales team at a scaleup. That's who they're built for, and that's who they price for. Form44 is $24 flat, everything included, no per-user math, no watermarks, no contact sales for anything. Priced for the person who's actually doing the work, not the company trying to manage that person.

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I keep mixing up Docusign and Hellosign lmao. Never had a docu account and have used hellosign for like 6 years but I always go to Docusign first before remembering that's not where I am supposed to be. branding powers I guess