How to Interview Shatta Wale – Part 2
In case you missed Part 1 of my article on how to interview Shatta Wale, here’s a summary:
Before going on air, I greeted Shatta casually to ease any tension. It is crucial not to assume what an interview is going to be about; I asked Shatta what he wanted to achieve. Keeping introductions brief is key to retaining audience interest and allowing more speaking time for the guest. Using informal language and discussing recent events made Shatta comfortable and led to unexpected, engaging discussions. These techniques create authentic conversations that resonate with viewers.
The Interview Commandments
This article focuses on 3 key elements of a successful interview according to the late great CNN interviewer Larry King:
1. Ask short questions
2. Listen closely
3. Follow up
With a track record of over 50,000 interviews in a 60 year career, I consider Larry King to be the world’s greatest interviewer.
Here’s an example of how you can use his technique. It’s from the 4th minute of the Shatta Wale interview where Shatta was reflecting on how some people behave on the internet.
Shatta: …the abuse on the internet is too much.
Me: What has shocked you about the level of abuse on the internet?
Shatta: You know, the way people are so naïve about the opportunities on the internet and how they can…you know…create life for themselves out of it.
In the above example, the sequence is as follows:
1. Guest speaks
2. Host listens carefully
3. Host asks brief question
4. Go back to Step 1
If you are listening carefully and not scanning your notes or thinking about what to ask, you can actually echo the guest’s words in your question. You don’t need to craft a highly original question to keep the chat going. Just do “copy and paste”. When Shatta referred to “abuse on the internet”, I just repeated that very phrase in my question by asking Shatta what shocked him about it.
What to Remember
1. Keep your questions brief. Your role is to guide the conversation not dominate it or show off your knowledge of the subject matter.
2. Pay attention to what the interviewee is saying otherwise you might miss a good story,
3. Originality is overrated. Interviewees react positively when you say words they used back to them – it proves you were indeed paying attention. If you get used to this technique, you won’t need to keep referring to your list of questions which sometimes can be a barrier to an engaging conversation. When was the last time you had a nice chat reading your questions from a piece of paper?
Following Up
The art of following up depends on two factors: the ability to listen closely and a sense of curiosity. After Shatta mentioned “opportunities on the internet” 2 times in 3 minutes, I became curious. Why is he repeating this? So I asked the obvious question using his own words:
Me: Talking about opportunities on the internet…
Shatta: Mmmm
Me: When did you wake up to the realization that… kwe… this YouTube, this Twitter thing…e no be joke?
Shatta: Mmmm
Me: Can you take us back to that time when you realized that this was big?
This was the cue for Shatta to launch into a 6 minute story about how he discovered Google and Yahoo over 20 years ago, how he started recording and uploading his music online and how he began building his fan base. This was news to me as none of this information had turned up in my pre-interview research online.
What to Remember
1. Watch out for clues and patterns. If an interviewee refers repeatedly to a particular topic, that may be a clue or you to explore it. Sometimes the clue may emerge from a change in tone or emotion.
2. Once you’re learning new things as a host, it’s a sign that the interview is going well. I’ve spoken to many entertainers who dread media interviews because they can almost predict what the questions will be (in sum, a wholesale repetition of questions that were asked in previous interviews).
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