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Dmitriy Gerasimov retweeted
MIT quantum computing researcher Aram Harrow believes "interesting quantum computers" with thousands of qubits could arrive sooner than expected, not in 10-15 years as previously thought. Harrow has spent 25 of his 46 years working in quantum computing. He says these systems could enable powerful simulations of molecules and materials, while potentially breaking today's widely used encryption methods.
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I noticed this in 2024 with Litinski's paper and started work on QuantumEVM. Cellfrane and QuantumEVM are fully PQC with no elliptic curve cryptography.
BlackRock has entered the ring with their own Quantum Computing and Blockchains report. What are the 10 main points you need to know? 🧵⬇️
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Just to prevent a regular fud about balancing. We’re going to exchange CELL through Erc20->BEP20->CF20 on the bridge and MEXC with BitMart to get back withdrawals to the last one. Stay tuned, more news tomorrow on our regular AMA
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Dmitriy Gerasimov retweeted
#TON shipped Catchain 2.0: 2.5s → 400ms block time Approaching that magnitude of speedup in #Cellframe ESBOCS: 30-60 s → ~1s on full quorum (all validators well-connected), 2-5s worldwide, and no it’s not sharding yet. Live testnet proven, soon in main. The PQ future is near
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#cBTC — quantum-safe Bitcoin on the Cellframe platform. Not "Bitcoin replacement." Not "better Bitcoin." Not a "fork." It is a quantum hedge and migration path for BTC holders. Why not just "Waiting for Bitcoin Core update”? —>
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6. Why cBTC, Not wBTC wBTC solves the problem of "using BTC in DeFi." cBTC solves a different problem: "quantum safety for BTC DeFi." - wBTC = same ECC key, same vulnerability. - #cBTC = new PQ key, quantum protection, native L2 layer for DeFi
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7. No Lock-In Principle - Stay in #cBTC as a standalone PQ-safe exposure - Or return back to classical BTC via bridge / OTC / redemption path, if the user does not want to remain in the #Cellframe ecosystem - Migrate to a future PQ-Bitcoin, if it materializes
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Nevertheless, it is better to accept a drop in TPS and an rise in gas fees than to allow the protocol to be compromised. Better yet, migrate the protocols to the CF platform.
BREAKING🚨: Physicists Just Created World's Largest Quantum Array with 6,100 qubit.
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Oh, does simply switching to post-quantum cryptography really cause bandwidth issues? Who would have thought, huh! The next surprise will be the gas fees in this protocols.
🚨SOLANA TESTS QUANTUM-RESISTANT CRYPTOGRAPHY Solana is working with Project Eleven to test quantum-safe signatures. Early tests show major tradeoffs: signatures are up to 40× larger and the network ran roughly 90% slower, raising scalability questions.
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That’s why it’s not enough just to add PQ cryptography. You have to redesign the entry system. That’s why the #cellframe platform is only the choice for this. #cBTC will save the Bitcoin
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And we have the solution for BTC well tested on $CELL Stay tuned, it will be announced soon #cBTC
🚨 BIG: Google research shows a future quantum computer could crack Bitcoin's private keys in just 9 mins, 1 min short of Bitcoin's average block time. The research warns mempool attacks could become a real threat, urging immediate migration to post-quantum cryptography.
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Dmitriy Gerasimov retweeted
The average Bitcoiner's response to Quantum Computing
🚨 Google has sounded the quantum alarm 🚨 Today, they released groundbreaking progress towards breaking crypto using a quantum computer. TLDR - Existing cryptography is dead. Mempool attacks are real. We must migrate to post-quantum now. Thread 🧵
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Quantum Threat get more and more expose
Saw some people panicking or asking about quantum computing's impact on crypto. At a high level, all crypto has to do is to upgrade to Quantum-Resistant (Post-Quantum) Algorithms. So, no need to panic. 😂 In practice, there are some execution considerations. It's hard to organize upgrades in a decentralized world. There will likely be many debates on which algorithm(s) to use, resulting in some forks. And some dead project may not upgrade at all. Might be a good to cleanse out those projects anyway. New code may introduce other bugs or security issues in the short term. People who self custody will have to migrate their coins to new wallets. This brings to the question of Satoshi's bitcoins. If those coins move, then it means he/she is still around, which is interesting to know. If they don't move (in a certain period of time), it might be better to lock (or effectively burn) those addresses so that they don't go to the first hacker who cracks it. There is also the difficulty of identifying all his addresses, and not confuse with some old hodlers. Anyway, it's a different topic for later. Fundamentally: It's always easier to encrypt than decrypt. More computing power is always good. Crypto will stay, post quantum.
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I hope that this time, it won’t just be experts and enthusiasts who realise the reality of the quantum threat
Replying to @mreiffy
On the plus side, if you forgot the password to your wallet, it will be accessible in the future x.com/i/grok/share/ad0b425eb…
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Dmitriy Gerasimov retweeted
Today is a monumentous day for quantum computing and cryptography. Two breakthrough papers just landed (links in next tweet). Both papers improve Shor's algorithm, infamous for cracking RSA and elliptic curve cryptography. The two results compound, optimising separate layers of the quantum stack. The results are shocking. I expect a narrative shift and a further R&D boost toward post-quantum cryptography. The first paper is by Google Quantum AI. They tackle the (logical) Shor algorithm, tailoring it to crack Bitcoin and Ethereum signatures. The algorithm runs on ~1K logical qubits for the 256-bit elliptic curve secp256k1. Due to the low circuit depth, a fast superconducting computer would recover private keys in minutes. I'm grateful to have joined as a late paper co-author, in large part for the chance to interact with experts and the alpha gleaned from internal discussions. The second paper is by a stealthy startup called Oratomic, with ex-Google and prominent Caltech faculty. Their starting point is Google's improvements to the logical quantum circuit. They then apply improvements at the physical layer, with tricks specific to neutral atom quantum computers. The result estimates that 26,000 atomic qubits are sufficient to break 256-bit elliptic curve signatures. This would be roughly a 40x improvement in physical qubit count over previous state-of-the-art. On the flip side, a single Shor run would take ~10 days due to the relatively slow speed of neutral atoms. Below are my key takeaways. As a disclaimer, I am not a quantum expert. Time is needed for the results to be properly vetted. Based on my interactions with the team, I have faith the Google Quantum AI results are conservative. The Oratomic paper is much harder for me to assess, especially because of the use of more exotic qLDPC codes. I will take it with a grain of salt until the dust settles. → q-day: My confidence in q-day by 2032 has shot up significantly. IMO there's at least a 10% chance that by 2032 a quantum computer recovers a secp256k1 ECDSA private key from an exposed public key. While a cryptographically-relevant quantum computer (CRQC) before 2030 still feels unlikely, now is undoubtedly the time to start preparing. → censorship: The Google paper uses a zero-knowledge (ZK) proof to demonstrate the algorithm's existence without leaking actual optimisations. From now on, assume state-of-the-art algorithms will be censored. There may be self-censorship for moral or commercial reasons, or because of government pressure. A blackout in academic publications would be a tell-tale sign. → cracking time: A superconducting quantum computer, the type Google is building, could crack keys in minutes. This is because the optimised quantum circuit is just 100M Toffoli gates, which is surprisingly shallow. (Toffoli gates are hard because they require production of so-called "magic states".) Toffoli gates would consume ~10 microseconds on a superconducting platform, totalling ~1,000 sec of Shor runtime. → latency optimisations: Two latency optimisations bring key cracking time to single-digit minutes. The first parallelises computation across quantum devices. The second involves feeding the pubkey to the quantum computer mid-flight, after a generic setup phase. → fast- and slow-clock: At first approximation there are two families of quantum computers. The fast-clock flavour, which includes superconducting and photonic architectures, runs at roughly 100 kHz. The slow-clock flavour, which includes trapped ion and neutral atom architectures, runs roughly 1,000x slower (~100 Hz, or ~1 week to crack a single key). → qubit count: The size-optimised variant of the algorithm runs on 1,200 logical qubits. On a superconducting computer with surface code error correction that's roughly 500K physical qubits, a 400:1 physical-to-logical ratio. The surface code is conservative, assuming only four-way nearest-neighbour grid connectivity. It was demonstrated last year by Google on a real quantum computer. → future gains: Low-hanging fruit is still being picked, with at least one of the Google optimisations resulting from a surprisingly simple observation. Interestingly, AI was not (yet!) tasked to find optimisations. This was also the first time authors such as Craig Gidney attacked elliptic curves (as opposed to RSA). Shor logical qubit count could plausibly go under 1K soonish. → error correction: The physical-to-logical ratio for superconducting computers could go under 100:1. For superconducting computers that would be mean ~100K physical qubits for a CRQC, two orders of magnitude away from state of the art. Neutral atoms quantum computers are amenable to error correcting codes other than the surface code. While much slower to run, they can bring down the physical to logical qubit ratio closer to 10:1. → Bitcoin PoW: Commercially-viable Bitcoin PoW via Grover's algorithm is not happening any time soon. We're talking decades, possibly centuries away. This observation should help focus the discussion on ECDSA and Schnorr. (Side note: as unofficial Bitcoin security researcher, I still believe Bitcoin PoW is cooked due to the dwindling security budget.) → team quality: The folks at Google Quantum AI are the real deal. Craig Gidney (@CraigGidney) is arguably the world's top quantum circuit optimisooor. Just last year he squeezed 10x out of Shor for RSA, bringing the physical qubit count down from 10M to 1M. Special thanks to the Google team for patiently answering all my newb questions with detailed, fact-based answers. I was expecting some hype, but found none.
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