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Jun 11
A lot of people get overwhelmed by the thought of getting a signer for MRR. Some think it’s harder than it really is, or are afraid to make mistakes they don’t know how to avoid because they’re unaware of what to avoid. Then they get a signer, and later get overwhelmed by the thought of getting 10 signers, for the same fear of fucking up at bigger scale, which I completely understand. If they just get one signer, then another, and another, in a more organic way, the picture starts to sharpen of how to do actually do this business, and it won’t match their expectations. And you get zero unreasonable fear, everything just becomes completely practical.
Mfs will pay 8% fees to a MID just to avoid getting a US signer for a few thousand Make it make sense to me You are willing to pay way more in fees just to save a few grand upfront? By having a US signer or IBO you can apply to MIDs with lower fees than Shopify payments Crazy how mislead a lot of people are in this space. Ps. If you are US based yourself then you dont need a US signer or IBO (can just sign yourself)
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I don't use virtual bank accounts for my MRR corps. You're alr high risk, you need to look as a legit as possible. Like some this shit is hilarious to me People take their new corp (it was incorporated in wyoming last week lol), with a virtual bank account, with a $0 bank balance, and try apply for MIDs. And they get rejected and wonder why? Can't be moving like that dawg. If it's a new corp (or any corp imo) you gotta overcompensate in the other areas that you can, you can't just be looking super scammy. Even if you do get approved for a MID with a virtual bank account, your 1 week old corp is sitting under a microscope. You have to take these things seriously. So, no more virtual bank accounts, and no more empty balances. Get a real bank account, Chase, BoA, Wellsfargo, whichever. Put some $ in the bank account. THEN apply. it looks more legit. if your provider for corps is being lazy about getting you a real bank account, then fire his ass.
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Even tho MRR is “unethical” and messed up because it doesn’t actually provide value to the market, it just exploits people’s money into your pocket… In spite of that, you’d be surprised how much care, focus and energy I and my team put into the FE product and the initial customer experience when we acquire them, LOL. Kinda ironic, but we do that. It makes them less angry at you for re-billing them for 7 months straight when the product they received originally was actually good. If you nail a brand properly across the board, you don’t have to migrate subs from MID to MID with different descriptors. You can just keep it all on MIDs with the same descriptor/page.
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May 28
Still no ads manager dark mode in 2026
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50m in lifetime mrr rev ya goon, not 50m per month.
Imagine just saying sht that doesn’t make sense and is completely false in every way on the TL for absolutely no reason You have NO idea what 50m mrr looks like from an operational, technical, or financial perspective There’s probably less than 100 private companies in the US that have legitimately 50 million in mrr do you understand monthly revenue and monthly recurring revenue are different things 50m mrr is a multi billion dollar unicorn “I’ve had a few people come to me..” just stop man This post makes it evident you don’t even understand what a crm is bro… or a payment processor, a bank, bin routing, any payment infra at all, not even the literal term MRR is understood correctly smfh (which is supposed to be ur main larp thing it’s in ur name and you genuinely don’t know what it is),etc this might be the worst larp attempt in fking history boys
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May 23
If you’ve done over $50m in MRR, or even $20m, and still don’t have your own CRM, you’re making a mistake. I’ve had a few people come to who’ve been shut down on the CRM level they “audit” them for compliance, which is silly, and often shut them down. And that all stops when you’ve got your own crm Would you shut yourself down? Exactly, you wouldn’t. And the reason it makes more sense if you’ve done $20m in MRR is because you should have sufficient data to do BIN routing And it stops you from taking unnecessary risk of your CRM shutting you down, which is more important once you’re doing a few M a month, you just shouldn’t be taking that kind of risk. Not to mention, you save hella on fees, no more % fees.
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May 17
How much cash do you need to get started with MRR? Probably more than you think: - $200 for an LLC - $2kmin balance in the business bank account (so you are more likely to get approved for MIDs) - Or $3k - $5k for an llc in someone else’s name, to which you also wire in atleast 2k ideally That’s $2.2k or $5 -$7k already and you’ve barely started. Now you need MID, so you need to make an MRR website to submit to the payment processor for a MID. If you do it yourself you need to figure out how to make the website, what it needs, don’t fuck it up, or you can pay someone to do it but good luck with that because it’s quite niche. Now you need to find a payment processor who will take you, and unless you’ve got good connections already you’re just spam submitting payment processors you find on the internet, most will prob reject you because you have no processing history. After you get a MID, you need a CRM, whether it’s checkout champs, sticky, phx, paysight, or your own integration. Once your MID is integrated, now you can run traffic to it. But unless your winning offer hit rate is insane, you’re going to burn through some money before you find a winning offer You’ll need maybe $5-$10k for that, ideally more, a lot more tbh. Everything beyond that is a black box, you’ve got subs coming in, but you probably don’t have alerts set up properly, probably horrible customer support, bad fraud filters, a non-optimized set up. You also have to take that learning into account, on your own you’ll probably blow everything up a few times making a bunch of mistakes. Then say you find your feet and you’re doing ok on 1 LLC. Getting to a few million permonth requires a proper operation that you don’t know how to build. So, how much cash do you need? It’s not just about cash, it’s also about prior experience. You should have $1m in normal dropshipping experienxe, or info, or aff at the VERY LEAST. You should know how to media buy, build out landing pages, upsells, cro, creatives, some good back end technical skills And atleast $20k cash, ATLEAST, lol. If you don’t have $20k and $1m in normal offer experience, you shouldn’t bother with MRR because you’ll just get eaten alive. Things can get expensive fast, and if you don’t have the bank to pay the dues, your whole operation will die very quickly. It’s really not for everyone tbh, you gotta weigh up whether it’s worth it to you
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May 16
And inevitably also do MRR too hahah All roads lead to mrr.
May 16
How it feels to find out competitors are running VIP MRR
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BTW, you don't need to be a US citizen to do MRR. Most of the big MRR players are not US citizens, or US residents either. They US citizens are to busy getting rebilled by us instead of doing the rebilling.
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May 15
The american average monthly wage is $5,174, and with MRR you can take 0.58% of that... and make MILLIONS with MRR. $30/month $39/month $49/month Or more rebill price point is just 0.58% of their monthly income. That gives you a market of 349,000,000 people you can take 0.58% of their monthly resources from. And to target 349,000,000 people for any product in ecom without MRR, or info without MRR, is difficult because the market just shrinks. The MRR back-end is a mass-market offer that you can put on absolutely anything, and that's what makes it powerful. You can sell products that wouldn't normally make sense to have MRR on it, and put MRR on it with the way you opt them into it, and get 0.58% of their monthly income. The spread you get with an MRR back end is so wide. Once you have the MRR back end on lock to safely, and consistently extract 0.58% of peoples monthly income without having processing issues The whole game shifts to building out your offer portfolio to get different pockets of the 349 million population. As you get into MRR you might stumped over the concept of "how do you put MRR on that", yet you know people do because you see people making millions per month from it. That's the whole point, you can put MRR on absolutely anything.
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May 13
He’s at $7k - $10k days with MRR already lol He’s only been in “sha256 mrr advanced” for less than a month Before that he was at $1k days.
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May 12
A FREE MRR website "pre-submit to the processor" compliance checklist. Make sure you have all these things before you submit. To access it, join the discord Navigate to the channel name "mrr-checklist-access" and get the access code/click the link.
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May 10
The FTC coming after you for MRR is a skill issue.
all the blackhat/shady kids gonna regret everything when the FTC or any legal action comes after you🤣 be greedy for the money, then be ready for all ur money rinsed
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May 10
The MRR Risk Slippery Slope: MRR is inherently risky, that's not the problem. The problem is, in how people get increasingly decensitized to risk, and make more risky decisions like it's nothing. The first risk barrier the feel. 1. They start rebills at $30, they break through that risk barrier 2. that becomes risk baseline. 3. then they rebill $60, just for that to become baseline. 4. Then they no ship, that becomes baseline. 5. then they rebill $100 per week. 6. And it keeps getting more and more riskier. This is an extreme example but there are for more higher impact micro examples you will come across that have huge impacts on your operation too. And if you get sucked into the wrong choice it can lead to everything crumbling. Across my MRR career I've been at many of these fork roads: Choice A: Faster money, higher risk. Choice B: Harder money, but safer long-term. I usually pick Choice B. While everyone else in the industry excitedly picks Choice A. Why? Because they think about "faster money" without full context. Choice A always looks like a more exciting and fun option. I am ok with the boring option, I wasn't raised on tiktok, I don't need gratification so quickly. And choice B is usually the option that will allow you to run longer, more consistently, and more predictably scale anyway. Then you actually create a solid cash machine that isn't flimsey. It lasts, it survives, it gets bigger and stronger at the same time. Most people who choose Choice A end up getting fucked, 9 times out of 10. Make good decisions. When you do come across these fork roads, be careful to not be impulsive about your choice, and don't think about short term gains in a vacuum. Consider everything, and if it's not a good bet, don't do it. MRR is already risky on it's own.
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May 7
What MRR vendors/service providers/facilitators do are just magic tricks And like when a magician reveals the magic trick Or When you figure it yourself 9 times out of 10 you have a “huh, is that all it was?” And yea, usually, that is all it was… Simple (eventually, or sometimes quickly) So when your vendor/service provider/facilitator of sorts bottle necks your business Whether it be because: - it cuts steeply into profits - they don’t prioritize you because they’ve got 1m merchants - adds more risk - or whatever else That’s when you bring it in-house. Coz it’s probably easier than you make it out to be, just gotta do it.
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May 6
It’s gonna get harder to get MIDs very shortly, longer time-period, longer underwriting, more requirements. You should be optimizing for as many MIDs as you can rn. I’m talking, get 100 MIDs asap. More corps, and I mean, MORE corps, like order a bunch rn. Get each of corps more MIDs. Even if they sit dormant for a little while. It’s better to get them now and not need all of them right away than get them later and it takes longer.
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VAMP is just VISA trying to show the government that they care …to avoid getting sued for billions. Every card event that happens VISA makes money on - network token cryptograms - network token itself - use of a network token - every transaction - every chargeback - everything other txn event They make $ everywhere, and the more vol they get the more $ they make. This is why high risk volume is so valuable to VISA, because it has more txn events And they take on very little liability. The merchant and the acquiring banks are the ones who pay the fines. They could’ve implemented VAMP years ago Now it’s just a balancing act of VISA trying to not get sued by the government, They could do a G2 scan and know the truth on all their merchants. But they don’t. Because if they did they’d have to drop a shit ton of merchants And I mean, millions of merchants. So instead of doing that they put pressure on the cb level Why? Because merchants can find solutions for that ;)
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Kalo ripping is not the play for MRR, there’s a better way… And good luck getting 100k subs with that acquisition strategy. You’re just churning offers when you do kalo rips It can work but short shelf life and doesn’t compound well In MRR I hated the 4-5 month life-time of offers Getting to 30k new subs per month just for a few strong offers to die out due to raised CPAs and people taking my customers, less acquiring vol on the offer It can still work but here’s what we do instead. For a good product, let’s say a gadget, you can go to the supplier in China whose got the product patented. The patent is key, and get a Jewish lawyer to check that it’s valid, if it’s not, even better, patent it before them. You show him your volume, run a test, it works, and sign an exclusivity agreement with them. Then you become the only merchant who can sell that product. No one is ripping, no one is competing directly with you on the product level This way your offer portfolio only compounds. You go from 1 month at 30k sub acquiring rate To 50k subs acquiring rate a a couple months later.
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Fucking up in MRR can get very expensive. - VISA fines - MID shut downs - team members going AWOL - audits - funds frozen - bank account funds frozen - FTC law suit. - a service provider took payment and ghosted The list goes on. It can cost you multiple 6 figs, 7 figs or even 8figs I’ve seen shit hit the fan before and it’s not pretty. I’ve paid my dues too, my fair share of mistakes but in today’s environment you don’t have the luxury of trial and error. Trial and error assumes you get another repetition. But if you really fuck up, it can all be un-comebackable The level of “hehe haha” naiveness I see nowadays are from people that haven’t yet been punished. It’s like everyone’s got a plan until you get punched in the face And in MRR, very few people prepare for getting punched in the face, and barely do anything to mitigate it. Mitigate everything than you can!
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