karpathy says we’re a decade away from AGI, because we don’t yet know how to make systems learn continuously.
the deeper problem is that we’ve built this entire field on metaphors, not mechanics.
we keep saying AI can think, reason, remember, create. but those are human verbs, not model capabilities.
AI isn’t intelligent. it’s efficient.
it doesn’t reason . it pattern-matches.
it doesn’t remember. it reconstructs.
it doesn’t reflect.
it re-runs.
we confuse language with understanding. just because a model can describe thought doesn’t mean it’s having one.
real intelligence has intent. it knows why it’s thinking. AI predicts what comes next. and yet, even without intent, these systems are starting to functionally mimic cognition. they reason, recall, and reflect. not consciously, but effectively.
that’s why both statements can be true.
AI is a bubble. because capital, hype, and valuations have outpaced genuine capability. but it’s also here to stay. because the direction of progress is right.
the crash will clear the noise.
what remains will be systems that truly learn. memory that compounds, feedback that refines, intelligence that grows by living inside workflows.
we’ll look back on this phase the way we look at the early web: messy and magical.
the beginning of machines that finally learn, not just perform.
The
@karpathy interview
0:00:00 – AGI is still a decade away
0:30:33 – LLM cognitive deficits
0:40:53 – RL is terrible
0:50:26 – How do humans learn?
1:07:13 – AGI will blend into 2% GDP growth
1:18:24 – ASI
1:33:38 – Evolution of intelligence & culture
1:43:43 - Why self driving took so long
1:57:08 - Future of education
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