Finally got the names right. Flame Point Siamese. Super rare cats. Legendary. The female is even more rare, since also needs orange recessive gene in both parents in addition to the siamese pointed mutation in both parents. The point mutation is pretty awesome, it is temperature-sensitive albinism (acromelanism), so the colder parts of the cat (the points) get color. It also affects the eyes, so the same point gene makes their eyes blue. The point gene comes from siamese, but can be dormant for generations. These two are actually siamese breed, or high mixture, because they also make vocal trills and are very chatty. "This behavior comes from decades of selective breeding for the Siamese โtypeโ (intelligence, sociability, and vocal nature). It is polygenic (many genes) and is passed along with the body shape, ear size, and head wedge โ completely separate from the O (orange) and cs (pointed) genes."