The therapist from the Tate interview whom Jordan Stephens (
@jordanfstephens) is talking about with Jameela Jamil (
@jameelajamil) in the quoted tweet:
DAVID SUTCLIFFE (
@SutcliffeDavid) on Andrew Tate (
@Cobratate):
TRANSCRIPT:
INTERVIEWER: You mentioned Andrew Tate. That conversation you had with him, the second one in particular, was really fascinating. He had some pretty insightful things to say, and I think, yeah, you're right, vulnerable in some ways, maybe guarded in other ways. But what's Andrew Tate like in real life?
SUTCLIFFE: He's a big sweetie pie.
INTERVIEWER: Yeah?
SUTCLIFFE: Yeah. I mean, at least with me. I'm a little older than him, and he was very respectful to me. But I found him warm and friendly and gregarious and welcoming and funny and playful. He's just a big kid.
INTERVIEWER: He is playful. Yeah. You can see that. He's cheeky.
SUTCLIFFE: Yeah, he’s cheeky. And I think he's enjoying his life, and he's having fun. And he's been given an extraordinary gift with his intellect and his physical stature and the way he looks. I mean, he's right out of a movie or a comic book or something. And I think he knows that. He has an understanding of who he is and how he impacts the world. So there is a degree of self-awareness that is really interesting. He understands his power.
Now, imagine having that kind of power. What do you do with it? And my sense is that he's not always sure what to do. I mean, which I understand. What do you do when you're Andrew Tate? You have all of that. How do you wield that power?
And I think that was really what I was trying to get at in the conversation with him. It's pushing him towards — are you using your power effectively? What's next for you? What fear do you have to confront? Is there another level? Are you not taking responsibility for certain things in your life? Could you step up and be more?
And I found him, particularly in the interview, he was very open. And I mean, from my perspective, I understand on the outside looking in, you could look at it and say, well, he was guarded and he rationalized and he was avoiding. Okay, all of that was true. But he gave me a ton of openings. He said things — I was shocked that he said them because he had to know that when he said that thing, that that was an invitation for me to come in.
And so, yeah, I found him open and willing — a lot more open and willing than a lot of the other people I've interviewed, to be honest. I mean, he's just — clients that I have. Obviously, it was being taped, and so there's a performance to it. And both of us are storytellers. So we understand that we're creating something, so that's a part of it. But, you know, I like Andrew. Yeah.