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Replying to @Biharanire0
NAV erosion on income CEFs persistsโ€”premium buyers, you're pricing in someone else's exit.
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Getting ready to go live. youtube.com/live/HqbTIZ3uqvwโ€ฆ I will recap the top 40 and talk about the issuers. See if you favorite issuer is ranked. Also AMA about any of these 415 ETFs CEFs and BDCs that I cover! See you in 1 minute
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I thought it was 1/2 double line, 1/2 CEFs
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โސูƒูู€ูˆุฏโސูƒูˆุจููˆู†โސุฎู€ูุตู…โސ โސุงูŠู‡ุฑุจโސุงูŠู‡ูŠุฑุจ ุงู‡ุฑุจ โŠตGCA5893โŠด โސู†ูˆู†โސ โŠตS3QโŠด โސู†ู…ุดูŠโސ โŠตAABNโŠด โސุจุงุซโ–ฌุงู†ุฏโ–ฌุจูˆุฏูŠโސ AB6KโŠด โސู†ุงุชุดูˆุฑุงู„ โŠดุชุงุชุดโސ โŠตC37โŠด โސููˆุบุงโސูƒู„ูˆุณู€ูŠุชโސ โŠตV1โŠด โŠดู…ุงูƒู€ุณ โŠด โŠตA9BโŠด ___ cefS
And most CEFs trade at NAV or a negative.
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You know ETFs. But do you know CEFs? Closed-End Funds are the lesser-known income tools of the FIRE community โ€” and they can yield 8โ€“15% . ๐Ÿงต ๐Ÿ“Œ What is a Closed-End Fund (CEF)? A CEF is like a mutual fund that trades on the stock exchange like an ETF. Key difference: it issues a fixed number of shares at IPO and then trades at either a PREMIUM or DISCOUNT to its Net Asset Value (NAV). That discount is where the opportunity lives. โœจ ๐Ÿ”‘ Why FIRE investors pay attention to CEFs: โœ… Often trade at a discount to NAV (buy $1 of assets for $0.88) โœ… High monthly distributions โ€” 8โ€“15% yields are common โœ… Professionally managed income strategies โœ… Can use leverage to boost distributions โœ… Wide variety: bonds, equities, options, real assets โš ๏ธ The risks to understand: โ€ข Leverage amplifies losses in down markets โ€ข Distributions can be cut without warning โ€ข Less liquid than ETFs โ€” wider bid/ask spreads โ€ข More complex โ€” you need to understand what you're buying Popular CEF categories for FIRE investors: ๐Ÿ“Š Equity income CEFs (options-based strategies) ๐Ÿ“Š Bond/credit CEFs (high-yield fixed income) ๐Ÿ“Š Multi-asset income CEFs This week we're exploring CEFs as a companion to your income ETF stack. Welcome to the next level of FIRE income investing. ๐Ÿ”ฅ #CEF #ClosedEndFund #FIRE #FIREMovement #IncomeInvesting #PassiveIncome #RetireEarly #HighYield #FinancialFreedom #FinancialIndependence #ETF #DividendInvesting #InvestingEducation
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Replying to @RandomTheGuy_
Valuation spreads in CEFs have compressed. The 8% yield pool now demands tighter discount triggers for entry. Risk-adjusted returns still there, but patience required. ๐Ÿ“‰
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Replying to @MikeJM65
which CEFs do you own? I have a tiny tiny bit of PDI.. have had it for a long time. The premium is shrinking.. if it were at a discount. I'd buy it no sweat. I also have PDO and PDX (bigger positions). PDX is largest. I am a big Ivacsyn fan.
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๐Ÿก ๐“๐‘๐€๐ƒ๐ˆ๐๐† ๐‚๐‹๐Ž๐๐„๐ƒ ๐‡๐Ž๐”๐’๐„๐’ ๐Ÿก โœจ ๐€๐‹๐’๐Ž ๐“๐€๐Š๐ˆ๐๐† ๐๐„๐“ ๐‚๐„๐…๐’ โœจ โœ”๏ธ ๐๐„๐‘๐…๐„๐‚๐“ ๐‚๐Ž๐๐ƒ๐ˆ๐“๐ˆ๐Ž๐ โœ”๏ธ ๐๐ˆ๐‚๐„ ๐“๐Ž ๐‹๐Ž๐Ž๐Š ๐€๐“ โœ”๏ธ ๐†๐Ž๐Ž๐ƒ ๐Ž๐…๐…๐„๐‘๐’ ๐–๐„๐‹๐‚๐Ž๐Œ๐„ ๐Ÿ“ฉ ๐ƒ๐Œ ๐Œ๐„ ๐“๐Ž ๐“๐‘๐€๐ƒ๐„!
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Week 2 done. Here's everything covered for your FIRE income playbook: ๐Ÿ“Œ Monday โ€” $MSTY Deep Dive โ†’ 105% yield, extreme risk, Bitcoin exposure โ€” know BEFORE you buy ๐Ÿ“Œ Tuesday โ€” $JEPI vs $JEPQ โ†’ JPMorgan's two income funds: same family, different risk profile ๐Ÿ“Œ Wednesday โ€” Growth vs Income Phase Framework โ†’ Which funds belong based on your years to FIRE ๐Ÿ“Œ Thursday โ€” $3,000/Month Portfolio Blueprint โ†’ Real math building a FIRE paycheck with $QQQI $SPYI ๐Ÿ“Œ Friday โ€” $DIVO Spotlight โ†’ The covered-call ETF that grows AND pays monthly ๐Ÿ“Œ Saturday โ€” 5 Income ETF Myths Busted โ†’ Common misconceptions costing FIRE investors real money ๐Ÿ“Š Running fund scoreboard: Covered so far: $SPYI โ€ข $QQQI โ€ข $JEPI โ€ข $JEPQ โ€ข $MSTY โ€ข $DIVO ๐Ÿ”ญ Week 3 preview: โ†’ Introduction to Closed-End Funds (CEFs) for FIRE investors โ†’ $QYLD โ€” the grandfather of covered-call ETFs โ†’ The FIRE Income Ladder framework โ†’ $4,000/month 3-fund portfolio blueprint Follow so you don't miss it. ๐Ÿ”ฅ #FIRE #FIREMovement #WeeklyRecap #IncomeETF #PassiveIncome #RetireEarly #MSTY #JEPI #JEPQ #DIVO #FinancialFreedom #FinancialIndependence #CoveredCallETF #ETF
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CLO Equity funds have started to report May NAVs and they are marginally higher, at least for $EIC and $ECC. The credit market environment has moved in CLO Equityโ€™s favor. The somewhat nervous credit environment that marginally favors lenders over borrowers means loan refinancings - the killer of CLO Equity over the past year - are much more muted. At the same time, the two key problems with the sector arenโ€™t going to be resolved. One is the somewhat unpredictable nature of CLO Equity security prices which can move swiftly lower with very little stress in broader markets. And two, how those downward prices translate into forced deleveraging across the CEFs. Despite some recovery in NAVs over the last two months, most of the sector is still nursing NAV losses of around 40% year-on-year. Even in the best case environment that is not going to be possible to recover from which makes it very hard to have conviction around this asset class. As tactical playthings, however, they are great.
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Replying to @indigoati
CEF leverage at 8-month highs. Premium erosion in muni CEFs warrants reduced exposure.
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@AxelMerk Why did you resign today from ASA especially after the SCOTUS ruling today limiting activists in CEFs? The timing makes no sense?
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Replying to @OutspokenGeek
Thanks. That's not one I'm that familiar with, actually. In general I've stuck to OEs and ETFs bc the open-end nature creates its own set of tradeoffs and also CEFs/trust premiums/discounts push some of the fundamentals to the periphery.
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