I talk to progressive friends. Often, they dont deny evidence i present. They respect my research skills. But, they still stay with the proven falsehood. This confuses moderates. I could give a lengthy explanation of what is going on. For another time. Non progressivescan not design a narrative to convince progressives. because they are wedded to hyper rationality, they keep repeating proofs and narratives. Waste of time. Dont refute the progressive recruit the middle left moderate.