OK, follow along, because I have answers.
Bottom line. This is NOW a foul ball. I talked with the same person
@BenVerlander did and the same person
@dennistlin talked with, and here is how I can best explain this, and I’ll put this so it makes sense to the scoring followers.
What is in the rulebook is unclear, because it can absolutely be interpreted the way that I, and many, many folks have interpreted it, that the ball touching the ground is a foul ball is in the section about a fair fly ball, so it applies to balls that are hit on a fly past the bases. I wasn’t wrong about that.
However, many times folks here have heard me say that the Official Scorer’s Manual goes into greater detail on something (error, or earned/unearned run, etc.).
As was explained to me, the Umpire’s Manual goes into greater detail on this exact play, new detail for this year, that stresses that this is a foul ball. Now, if it’s moving and touched, that can be interpreted different from what I understand, but as of this year, the ball in the
@padres game should have been ruled foul (life would have been easier if France doesn’t touch it).
I was given kudos for knowing the Mets/Pirates play from 2021 and the Yankees/Royals play from 2023, and those plays were both ruled fair at the time, but if those plays happened in 2026, they would be foul.
Likewise, Monday’s play in 2021 or 2023 is fair.
It is known that this needs cleared up better in the OBR for 2027 to avoid this.
It also was explained that the rule needed tweaked and put into the Umpire’s Manual in greater detail due to replay advances, basically because of the issues that parallax can cause.
So yes, it should have been ruled foul from what I have been told, but everything I said made sense because before this was put into the 2026 Umpire’s Manual, it was fair. Everyone that was wrong was wrong because of past precedent and actual info that wasn’t clear. The rule is written where it can be interpreted either way, and I’m satisfied with that.
I feel WAY better hearing it for myself out of my meeting with those folks.
The best part of this is NOW WE KNOW. Now let’s get some changes and educate!