Is Moving to the EU a Setback for an Ambitious Person?
My short answer: It depends.
My Long answer and firsthand exp of "Sweden vs India".
Who should try to move, live and decide?
If you're unhappy with infrastructure.
If you're fed up with traffic jams, wrong-side driving and almost no civic sense.
If you're unable to breathe in big metro cities with poor AQI.
If you're fed up with too much competition among peers.
If you're working 10-12 hours daily and don't have time for family, or personal hobbies but have many other desires/hobbies apart from just work, work and work.
If you're a woman, you will find the society here more welcoming, equal and safe compared to India.
If you know that taxes you paid, In return you get "Ghanta"
For some Indians, it could be a great choice - but for others, definitely not.
The thing with Sweden/EU is that its societal values are very different from traditional, Indian ones. That may come as a relief for certain individuals but can be a burden for others. I would think that any Indian who likes Western society and doesn’t come from a very privileged, traditional background might quite enjoy living in Sweden/EU- especially Indian women, who may feel much more at liberty, and more empowered here.
The thing that dampens Indian enthusiasm for the EU and West is the absence of a service culture.
Everything that makes life great in India is based on an abundance of service. Even when you are only moderately well-to-do, you may have a maid, a cook, and a driver, in India. But in the West, these comforts are unavailable.
There is nobody to call, or on call, for anything, ever.
You wash your laundry, do your own grocery shopping, you cook, you do the dishes, you run all your bank errands, drive your own car, take your kids to kindergarten or school, and so on. There will be nobody available to do any of these things for you in Sweden.
Who shouldn't move?
If you're comfortable in India and don't need change.
If your only goal is to earn euros/$$ and become ultra-rich.
Some basic things which are luxuries in India or you've to pay from your pocket despite paying 30% in taxes.
Medical care is good enough for me here. If I am not well I go to a doctor and get treated. If I go to a private clinic I pay cash and it is not very expensive. If I go through the national health system it is either free or only a few SEK.
No one asks for insurance coverage and no health insurance company is telling me what procedures or treatments I can or cannot have. I have never had to worry about a pre-existing condition since I have lived here. Most people here do not even know what that means.
Sweden is an extremely family-friendly country, where both parents get up to 480 days of maternity/paternity leaves. Parents even get a stipend from the government for helping with the expenditures of the kids.
College and school education is free and students also get a small monthly sum while they study in university from the government to help them while they are studying.
In Sweden, one can learn "Swedish" for free in whichever municipality one lives in, which is a big plus as an expat.
Water - pure as it can get. Drink it right off the tap without hesitation.
Electricity - I have never experienced a power cut in Sweden.
All the benefits I mentioned above come at a cost and that is the high taxes which is not the case in India.
What I observed on Ambitious people: Yes, indeed, you won't get the same vibes as in India and USA but most people are happy with life and why they should do more as it's a different setup here! "Equality".
There is much less motivation to work or do anything productive really - The social security system keeps people warm and prevents them from becoming homeless. Even if they are completely useless.
There is much less motivation to work hard or to push yourself up in career ladder
Here tax systems (in most EU countries) are progressive, which means the more you make, the higher % you have to pay. It’s also called millionaire tax somewhere. Thanks to this tax having a higher salary sometimes means more work for less money.
People rather stay low, with easier jobs for more money.
Simply put, the rewards for their ambitions are not as great. __________________________________________________
What I'm doing being a very ambitious person:
Yes, the salary feels low in direct employment so I stick to being a consultant and opened a AB but again due to high taxes and complex taxes, I closed the company.
I opened a private limited company in India and good thing you can do both consulting and business here at the same time (remember you can't lie here, if caught they will just deport you as mentioned it's a very high trust society.) by opening a company and I made my spouse as NRI director and my father as India director.
I've set up a good enough service business instead of cursing socialism and now generating employment for 10 people in India within just 2 years. Most of the leads I get from X/Twitter.
Travelling 3 times a year to India and doing my best possible work after normal working hours! - I get up at 4:00 AM and sleep sometimes at 3:00 AM
My main goal is to get a "Swedish" passport because Traveling the world is hassle-free with EU passport.
No country or region is all “good” or all “bad.”
Just moving to Europe/Sweden won’t solve all your problems.
Europe is an expensive place to live. Stockholm is among the top 10 most expensive cities in the world.
Understand first what you want, and then where you can get it. Don’t assume overseas is better. This assumption is incorrect in my experience of living in 3 countries - the USA, Sweden and India. It is a personal decision - don’t follow the crowd blindly.
And Yes, software engineer salaries in Europe are lower than in the USA, but I wouldn’t say they differ drastically. Honestly, this decision depends totally on what you want. I've shared the close comparison earlier. check old tweets.
If you want to go to the EU and lead a comfortable life with a very good package, then I guess you should move.
If you want to stay in India and stay close to your parents and family, you should just stay there.
Everyone has their own personal decisions. Good luck.
I Included a few snapshots of Sweden to offer you a sneak peek.
Happy to answer any follow up questions.
Thank you, Namaste 🙏