This is a great post. Read all of it. Interesting point, and one I agree. Once you've got your edge, and discipline in check as best you can, then move forward. Starting with your own live account, will pay dividends in the long run
I often get asked by prospective clients whether they should be learning trading at online proper firms, and taking their challenges.
My response is to try and steer them away from these routes.
Whilst I accept that these are valid businesses, and become an opportunity to learn trading 'on the cheap' relatively speaking, I have my issues with them.
The first concert is the pass rate reality:
Most estimates suggest that somewhere between 5% and 15% of people who attempt prop firm challenges actually pass and get funded, and of those, a significant proportion either blow the funded account or get cut off before making meaningful withdrawals. - Independent researchers and journalists who' ve looked at the payout data from some of the larger firms suggest that the vast majority of revenue comes from challenge fees, not from paying out profitable traders. - That is a red flag.
Nonetheless the question becomes are they a good place to learn?
In my view, mostly no: The challenge format creates a very specific psychological distortion. You are not learning to trade well over time, you are learning to pass a test. - And the test has very clearly defined criteria that they specify. This doesnt allow you to evolve as a trader to what suits you best, and warps your behaviour. It often also encourages traders to be either overly cautious early on, then take outsized risk near a deadline. It also forced them to run a strategy optimised for the rules rather than for real and evolving market conditions. - Neither of those habits transfers well to genuine trading.
Then there is the gamification problem!
The challenge format, the leaderboards, the "get funded fast" messaging, the social media culture around it, all of that does 'gamify the experience'. This attracts people drawn to the idea of trading more than to the idea of building a practice which builds the sort of discipline need to thrive and survive, within the realities and practicalities of a rapidly evolve ng and emergent situations and contexts. - There is not one size fits all in trading. - And the business model, when examined closely, relies on that. If most participants passed and got paid, the model would collapse.
Do they have some legitimate value!
There are a few things that can be useful. Having real rules around drawdown forces some traders to confront risk management in a way they might avoid with their own small account. And for someone who genuinely cannot access capital any other way, a well-structured funded account from a 'reputable firm' is at least something, as opposed to nothing.
What about those who succeed and become well known?
There are some, but form what I know of these, they did not learn trading on the prop firm systems, they were people who had already learned trading and were competent, and were essentially using the structure as a capital source rather than a training ground. Playing lots of different firms and finding the ones that best worked for them.
In addition there is a lottery aspect. - There are always a few winners, this is the same with the online props firms. The winners get vast publicity and vicinity as they become marketing and PR tools for the firms. -But these are outliers, lottery ticket winners, extremely rare and their success distorts the reality.
The bottom line - my view.
They are not a substitute for learning and developing as a trader through trial and experience in the real markets. - This is a process which takes many years beyond the learning the baseline technical aspects. - Trading is a highly a performance skill, as with all performance type activities, such as sport, music, drama, the learning and the the time to success is measured in years not months. - For most people online prop firms are an expensive lesson where they are likely to burn through challenge fees and reinforce bad habits under pressure.