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Jon pring retweeted
It’s is appalling the have been sentenced as terrorists. Here is why?
Sentencing, jury verdicts, and the problem of “terrorism connection” findings in criminal damage cases The case Head, Corner, Kamio and Rajwani, who were jailed after causing extensive damage at an Elbit Systems site, has sparked debate about how far sentencing can go when the conviction itself is for criminal damage. All four were convicted of criminal damage following a retrial linked to an incident in August 2024, where they broke into the site and caused significant damage. One of the defendants, Corner, also admitted a separate assault on a police officer, which the court treated as an aggravating factor in sentencing. What has drawn wider attention, however, is not only the seriousness of the conduct but the way the case has been described afterwards. It is reported that this is believed to be the first time criminal damage convictions have been treated as having a terrorism connection. That detail matters, because it sits in an uncomfortable space between what was actually charged and what appears to have been inferred at sentencing stage. The central legal concern is straightforward. These defendants were not tried for terrorism offences. They were not convicted of terrorism offences. The jury’s verdict was criminal damage, alongside assault in one case. That verdict defines the legal boundary of what has been proven. Everything that follows in sentencing is supposed to sit within that boundary. Judges are entitled to consider context. Courts regularly take account of motivation, planning, level of disruption, and harm caused. In protest related cases especially, the background can be relevant to understanding seriousness. But there is a difference between considering motive as context and effectively treating a case as terrorism related when that label has not been tested or proved as an offence. That distinction is important because terrorism is not just another descriptive label. It carries legal meaning and serious consequences. Once a case is framed in those terms, even indirectly, it can affect not only the sentence but how the public understands the conviction itself. That is why many legal systems are cautious about expanding terrorism related findings beyond the offences actually charged. The concern raised by critics is that when sentencing begins to reflect uncharged or unproven allegations, even implicitly, it risks shifting punishment away from what the jury actually decided. In this case, the conviction was criminal damage. Whatever one thinks of the conduct, the legal question at trial was limited to that offence. If a more serious terrorism charge was appropriate, the expectation in a fair system is that it should have been brought and tested in open court. This is not to minimise what happened at the site the damage was substantial, reportedly in the region of £1.2 million, and an assault on a policeman. But proportionality is not only about severity. It is also about legal coherence. The punishment must clearly follow from the offence that was actually proved. When sentences start to be discussed in terms of terrorism connections without a corresponding conviction, it can create uncertainty about where the line is drawn between protest, criminal damage, and terrorism. That uncertainty matters because public confidence in the justice system depends on clarity. People may disagree with sentences, but they should be able to understand exactly what has been decided and why. If the impression grows that sentencing is doing the work of uncharged offences, even in difficult or politically sensitive cases, it risks weakening that clarity. Ultimately, the issue is not whether the courts should take criminal damage seriously. They should. It is whether the legal system maintains a clear separation between what a jury has found beyond reasonable doubt and what a judge may later infer about broader context. In a system built on jury verdicts, that separation is not a technicality. It is a safeguard.
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"Judge Johnson kept the jury in the dark of his plans to sentence the four as terrorists. This is the first time in British legal history that anyone has been sentenced as a terrorist for damaging property." Please RT until this is both the 1st & last time. Thank you.
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Empty ambulances being set on fire in North London = COBRA meetings & hysterical mass media coverage. Actual people being burned out of their homes by masked gangs rampaging through the streets in Northern Ireland = no such thing. Please RT until this changes. Thanks.
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A girl steals baby formula from a shop and goes to jail. Michelle Mone steals £200m and nothing happens. THAT'S two tier justice...
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The Iranian navy, which has been destroyed eight times, has apparently closed the Strait of Hormuz again, because the United States, for the seventh time, won the war that wasn’t a war, so now the United States has to open the Strait of Hormuz that was already open before the not-war began. The not-war began because Iran had uranium that was totally, completely, beautifully obliterated, so they can’t build the nuclear bomb they weren’t building, which is why the United States had to start the not-war it definitely didn’t start. Now the United States, which has nuclear weapons, is threatening to use nuclear weapons to stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons, because nuclear weapons are far too dangerous for countries with nuclear weapons to allow other countries to have. If the United States saw the United States doing what the United States does in other countries, the United States would invade the United States to liberate the United States from the tyranny of the United States.
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This morning I asked myself, not for the first time, who is Nigel and I made some notes. And it does add up. Here is a man who sells himself as the ordinary bloke with a pint, the man of the people, the great outsider standing up against the establishment. And yet somehow this ordinary bloke always seems to arrive with a camera crew, a donor network, a friendly broadcaster, and now a parliamentary investigation into a £5 million gift from a crypto billionaire. Very normal. Very grassroots. Very “just one of the lads”. The peoples revolt, apparently, now comes with lighting, branding, fundraising dinners, professional outrage, and a small question about whether millions should have been declared properly. Everything is a betrayal when Labour does it. Everything is “nothing to see here” when Nigel does it. Housing? Blame Labour. The NHS? Blame Labour. The economy? Blame Labour. Boats? Blame Labour. A £5 million gift? Suddenly everybody must calm down and respect the process. And then came Tuesday. A young man died. A family was grieving. A country was trying to understand something horrific. And Farage stepped forward. Not with calm. Not with care. Not with responsibilty. But with his announcement of “pure cold rage”. That phrase matters. Because anger is human. Anger can be moral. Anger can demand answers, justice, accountability and truth. I understand anger. A lot of people are angry. They have every right to ask serious questions. But rage is different. Rage does not ask careful questions. Rage does not wait for investigations. Rage does not protect grieving families from becoming political props. Rage looks for a target. And that is where Farage always seems most comfertable. Not solving the pain. Not calming the country. Not asking how institutions failed and how they can be fixed. But standing beside the pain with a microphone, turning the temprature up, and calling it leadership. Warm enough to repost. Warm enough to donate. Warm enough to vote. But never calm enough to ask: “Hang on, who benefits from keeping us this angry?” That is the trick. He does not need Britain to feel hopeful. He does not even need Britain to feel informed. He needs Britain permanently one headline away from rage. Because rage is usefull. It fills rallies. It drives clicks. It turns grief into theatre. It makes slogans feel like solutions. And while everyone is shouting, nobody asks the boring questions. Where is the plan? Where is the funding? Where are the costings? Where is the responsibilty? Maybe that is who Nigel Farage is. Not the man of the people. But the man who knows exactly how to turn peoples pain into his own political stage. The Reform & Tory Sitcom continues. Same chaos. Different rosette. Anger can demand answers. Rage just sells tickets. If this speaks to you, please add your comments, repost it, and maybe follow me — not for me, but because politics needs fewer slogans and more people asking proper questions. #Farage #ReformUK
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Jon pring retweeted
On 12th June -10am–5pm. After never having been charged with - & never having been found guilty of terrorism - Pro-Palestine activists will be sentenced for terrorism. A first in UK history. Please RT this until this travesty of justice is ended. Thank you.
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Robert Gros made £27m selling useless gowns via the VIP PPE Lane, of course he never paid back a penny, he bought 2 mansions instead. RT and see if we can make him as famous as Michelle Mone.
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The death of Henry Nowak is a tragedy in every sense, and the public reaction to the body‑worn video is completely understandable. It is painful to watch. It is painful for officers to watch. And it is painful for Henry’s family to know that his final moments were chaotic, confused and shaped by a lie told by the man who killed him. But if we are going to talk about this case, and especially where/if politicians make highly charged statements, I believe it’s important to stay anchored to what was actually established in court. The judge was clear that the responsibility for Henry’s death lies solely with the man who stabbed him. The fatal wound to his chest was described as “catastrophic” and “unsurvivable”, and the pathologist confirmed that no medical intervention, immediate or otherwise, could have saved Henry. That does not erase the distressing nature of the footage, it does not mitigate the seemingly dispassionate response of the officers in attendance, but it does matter when we are trying to understand what happened and what could or could not have changed the outcome. It is also a matter of record that the officers were responding to a 999 call in which the offender falsely claimed he had been the victim of a racist attack and insisted no weapon had been used. That deception shaped the first few minutes on scene. The IOPC has been involved from the outset, and the officers have remained as witnesses throughout. This is an important distinction, as those familiar with post incident procedures can tell you. If there was a shred of doubt or suspicion that the officers actions at the time, when balanced against the information known at the time and their reasonable held beliefs, amounted to potential misconduct, the IOPC must at the earliest opportunity review their status. The IOPC have confirmed that the officers status remains unchanged. That indicates that the officers initial decisions/actions have already been assessed against the information known at the time and is unlikely to now change and amount to misconduct. None of this means the initial assessment was correct. It wasn’t. The officers misread the situation, and the body‑worn video shows that plainly. But policing is full of moments where decisions are made in seconds, under pressure, with incomplete or misleading information. Sometimes those decisions are right. Sometimes they are not. And sometimes…as in this case…the consequences are unbearably tragic even when the mistake does not change the final outcome. What we cannot/should not do is turn this into a proxy battle in a wider culture war. Henry’s family have asked that his death is not used to fuel division, hate or to propagate political agendas. It is possible to hold two truths at once: that the initial response was flawed, sloppy even…and the investigation needs to establish how policy, procedure and relied information impacted those decisions and events; and that despite the officers clear mistakes and compassion fatigue, they did not cause Henry’s death, nor could they have prevented it. Policing is at its worst when it becomes defensive, but it is also at its worst when it becomes a canvas onto which people project their own political battles and/or bitterness. This case, if it is to be a turning point, deserves better than that. We can demand accountability without abandoning fairness. We can acknowledge mistakes without inventing motives. And we can talk honestly about the pressures and imperfections of frontline policing without turning every tragedy into a referendum on the entire profession. That balance is difficult. But, to my mind, it is the only way we avoid repeating the same cycles of outrage, distortion, division and defensiveness that have done so much damage to public trust… and to the people who still turn up, every day, to do a job that is getting harder by the day.
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Jon pring retweeted
Spot on assessment, no lie.
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🚨@Nigel_Farage and @reformparty_uk have demanded Elon Musk have this video taken down and everyone who posts it banned!

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Jon pring retweeted
Tory MP, @kitmalthouse, is one of the most impressive voices in the Commons, speaking up for Palestinian rights (of which the most basic right is the Right to Life), calling out constant Israeli atrocities and holding the UK Govt to account Many more MPs should do likewise
British MP Kit Malthouse unleashes on the UK Government: No ceasefire in Lebanon. Daily double-tap killings. "If this is what they do to British & European citizens on camera... what are they doing to Palestinians off camera?" "We're all fed up with the gaslighting!"
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BREAKING : The UN accuses Israel of committing EXTERMINATION in Gaza. EXTERMINATION. Repeat it. Spread it. Let the world know. “Israel is responsible for extermination, murder, using starvation as a method of war..” —The UN Human Rights Council

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Jon pring retweeted
Replying to @LiamConlon2
So reform win Manchester Mayor, Reform win Makerfield and Andy has destabilised a decent man doing a decent job in trying times and increased chance of Farage being PM. Where exactly is the win for the country? SELFISH
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Jon pring retweeted
To anyone considering a leadership challenge I say - put the country first, not your own interests or those you might claim are the interests of the party. Keir Starmer has a massive democratic mandate from the public, nobody has the right to seek to depose him, nobody. Not Wes, not Ed, not Andy, not Angie. Yes Keir is unpopular in the polls, that’s current public sentiment - it’s not a mandate for getting rid of him. Opinion polls are snapshots of opinions. Local election results are always an opportunity to register a protest. Labour has a job to do, we’re not even two years in yet, things are tough - a leadership challenge would be self indulgent and illogical - in my view.
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We've lost count of the number of times someone has told us that "First Past the Post is not perfect, but at least it leads to stable governments." How is that going?
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Replying to @PippaCrerar
Will Boris be investigated for the 80 million quid MOD contract he gave Harborne after Harborne gave him a million quid?
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My colleagues & I have taken a huge gamble to set up @thenerve_news. We’re trying to build a new independent publication from the ground up. Social media is our only distribution for now. Sharing this article in your networks would make a huge difference. Thank you! 🙏🙏🙏
NEW: The British politician, his Russian intelligence handler & a Kremlin plot against the US & Ukraine. My new piece about Nathan Gill and Nigel Farage for @thenerve_news in which we ask: Why, even now, is no-one asking questions?
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