There was a girl I met at a bar who never texted me back when I texted her. I’d text her and get no reply. So I’d call her, but she wouldn’t answer, so I’d leave a voice message. THEN she’d text me. We did this three times before, after my third voice message, one Friday evening, she texted me that she was ‘bored’ and had ‘nothing to do’ that weekend because her going-out girlfriend was out of town. I called her up immediately and immediately suggested we hang out. She agreed. She came over, we tried hand-making a pizza (it was a mess and didn’t work out at all), mixed our drinks, then had sex. Why did she never text me back when I texted her? Why did she ONLY text back when I left her voice messages? I have no idea. But if you’re too rigid in your texting strategy, you will leave a lot of girls on the table. Girls are weird. They don’t all follow the same texting rules. Be like water, my friend.

Was listening to an old pick up artist and he said dinner dates are terrible. He mentioned a date where he bought two putters from a thrift store and painted glow in the dark paint on a ball. They putted on a golf course at night, and fucked on the green.

Flirting is the art of giving heat while staying in control of the interaction That's all

Leadership. I don’t follow a chicks mood. I lead it. “She was a downer and made me all emotional” is such a chick response There’s good ways to handle this. He can change subject (she refused), he can give absurd answers, take the question into funny story time. “So what do you do?” “Hmm great question. It all started with this shot of whiskey and a dumb idea back in this dive bar…” We do what we want. We LEAD. Oh but she’s a provider screening! Which means she just started ie she’s been banging fuck bois for years. I’m like cocaine hearing how someone “got clean” lol. I ain’t falling for that shit. I’ll give her one more shot at “maybe it’ll be different this time” “maybe I can change him” and she can avoid her reluctantly chosen fate of beta bore. No chicks “needs” a provider. Simps galore, seeking arrangement, etc… she doesn’t even need to leave her house to scam $$ off chumps. If she’s with you, she wants to fuck. Lead

Some common dating sticking points. All skill based n learnable Which ones are yours: - Struggling to open with anything - Can open but conversation loses steam after “initial spark” - Scares girl off the open/too anxious and girl runs off - Brain goes blank so non stop interview mode - Scripted memorized energy, cannot observe and pull in present info - Cannot cold read fast enough/ unaware of which topics are relevant - Too friendly, cannot build real man to woman vibe/ struggle to transition from platonic energy to spicy - Don’t know how to express interest properly/comfortably - Sexualizing too direct/too soon/too out of left field not smooth - Cannot build conversation threads, everything is a one answer lily pad - Drives conversation to dead ends/don’t know how to relate back to the girl - Talking too much about yourself/over-explaining non relevant details - Interpreting conversation too “literally or logically” and makes things too serious - Too intense and scares off girls - Cannot carry the conversation unless girl immediately hooks - Over-agreeing with the girl because you don’t know what else to do - Cannot tease or build “banter energy” comfortably and comes off too nice - Too harsh and insulting with teasing don’t know how to tailor down - Crumble when girls challenge you/gives you a little shit - Respond butthurt when met with challenges and shit tests - Playing too much of a “cool guy” character and disingenuous - Too scared to ask for the number - Awkward about asking for number/cannot transition smoothly - Cannot/afraid to/awkward to pull

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Issue is, best way to fix it looks like tolerance. Our deepest identity convictions stem from rejection. We double down on 'who we are' vs learn We best influence by ACCEPTING only the parts of them we like & starving the rest of ping. Then they change But that looks 'beta'

The 2 main disguised coverages: Acting too into us to see if we'll fall for it quick = we're following her lead (lack of BSD) After we've IOI'd/qualified her... acting NOT into us to see if we'll start to un-like her = we're following her lead (lack of FSD)

A loser may be right. but lose. Winner may be wrong, but his confidence = she changed her mind Smart guys struggle bc they dont realize showing the world which lens they use... matters more than showing the world they make accurate assessments

Good thread to go through; covers a lot of the usual sticking points for men who are struggling to move past platonic conversation and into "chemistry" flirty land. 1 - direct compliments related to beauty Beyond the fact that it's overplayed, the main problem is the amount of the interest that is displayed and its related social implications. Exorbitant amounts of interest is low social status behavior because it indicates that you are already won over; you're not only interested, but you're ready to sign your name away already at first sight. Men may think this is earnest, or romantic, "I'm like a Disney prince expressing my true love for my sweetheart" But to women this often feels low value and unsafe. "He's glazing me but doesn't even know me" A man higher up the social totem, one with options would not do this. Aka you come across desperate, like you're willing to accept anything. What you want to do, is still express interest (No, interest is not the villain here), but still have wiggle room. You are interested, but not sold. "Hi I wanted to meet you :)" - expresses interest, but not pedestalizing like you're ready to drop a knee. "That outfit of yours caught my attention, I'm hoping your vibe matches it ;)" - expresses interest still, and even challenges, which implies that theres potential you walk away even though you're interested in this moment. Your interest is MOMENTARY, don't make it permanent and the tension will have space to breathe. 2 - The statue. You HAVE to talk. Burden of conversation is on you, plain and simple. You are the person propositioning the girl into the conversation, she has no obligation to make the conversation easy or interesting. YOU are the source, she is the mirror. Fun energy, she will reflect, boring energy the same. Tip: Can start your conversations with observations of: Her outfit, facial expressions, vibe, assumptive personality traits, mood - things that you can see/experience. These will be relevant because it is about HER specifically. (Girl's favorite topics are themselves lmao) 3 - Self centered/ Non relevant topics Lots of times men just start talking about themselves or random material because they simply have nothing else to say. These men are usually anxious and stuck in their heads so their field of awareness is limited to themselves and cannot be expanded to others. They are talking to themselves, not to you. Need to calm down their nervous system, usually starts with just learning the right topics to talk about and through more relevant reference experiences they stop their panic attacks. All of these are not personality traits, they are skill issue and symptoms of anxiety. Fix them, and you get pus. Simple.

One mindset hack my wing and I used to do all the time, especially while we were warming up: Open sets with the intention of getting rejected lol Sounds crazy but the alleviated pressure allows you to feel the vibe of outcome independence, or “state” fast as f*ck, regardless of if you get rejected or not. Instantly gets you feeling loose and fun-focused instead of being in your head. Can’t tell you how many sets we ended up pulling from this because I’ve lost count.

Can you feel the vibe shift?

200 IQ method to get a woman’s phone number: 1. Go out with your boys this weekend 2. Spot a cutie at a bar, or even on the street 3. Ask her to take a photo of you and ≥1 of your friends (it's less awkward with a friend) 4. Hand her your phone 5. Interact and be playful while she’s taking your picture 6. When she's returning your phone, ask her to save her number so you can take her to drinks ✨

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A man who warmly dominates his relationship, with the woman happily/willingly submitting: • Is “my way or the highway” about the crucial stuff (loyalty, sex, respect) • Yet takes pains to understand HER needs & attend to them, within reason • Makes clear to her when something she wants is NOT reasonable & why • Prioritizes getting her to work together with him “as a team”

What to Text that Girl You Met FLOWCHART (Simplified) 1️⃣ 30 minutes - 4 hours after meeting: icebreaker text (“Hey, it’s Chase. Save my number 🙂”) 2️⃣ Next day: scheduler text with the 4 parts: greet her with her name, show consideration for her, share a little something about you, and check when she’s free to meet. IF SHE DOES NOT CONFIRM A TIME TO MEET: 3️⃣ Two days after scheduler text: send her a 1-2 minute voice or video message so she gets to hear or see your sexy self & remember why she likes you 4️⃣ Two days after that, give her a call. Have a story at the ready in case she doesn’t jump right into it. If it goes to voicemail, put your best sexy voice on and leave her a VM so sexy she’ll wish she answered 5️⃣ Four days after that, send her another scheduler text 6️⃣ Three days after that, call her again. If she answers, have a good chat, get her laughing, and on a high point ask her out. 7️⃣ If she is still not responding, send her a ball-in-her-court text so she knows what to do when she’s ready to meet up with you. Then forget about her unless/until you hear back. If you do things right, you won’t have to get all the way through this process before many of the girls you talk to lock in and come out onto the date with you. If this feels like “too much work”, just view it like strength training at the gym. Once you’ve built those follow up muscles running through this process will be like bench pressing 10 lbs.; you won’t even feel it (yet it will effortlessly get you girls). Good luck!

Filtering yourself to women is so deeply conditioned into all normal, socially-well-adjusted men that most women are completely oblivious they are being filtered to.

Take risks to lose the girl (SUPREMACY) But always remain warm and friendly (MAGNANIMITY) When feeling good, do anything (JOY) When feeling bad, do nothing (STRENGTH)

OVERHEARD IN SEATTLE (this is terrible) --"I've got good news and bad news. The good news is that god made p****. The bad news is that he put women in charge of it. But I know why. It so women will think men care what they have to say."-- --"Do you know why men lie? Because that's what women want."-- (Did I wake up on the right planet this morning?)

You can open with anything. Just a few ‘cringe’ things I have opened girls with that they nevertheless have responded VERY WELL to: • “Hey there. Important question: do you think Oprah Winfrey is hot?” • “Who wants a ride in the Ferrari?” (dangling Subaru keys) • “Excuse me, do you know where the Starbucks is?” (when it is literally right there) I know those sound cringe, but that is the point: you can say incredibly cringe things, but if you say them the right WAY, women will excitedly talk your ear off. That is because it is not the words that matter. It is the DELIVERY. Are you cool? Are you smiling? Are you having a good time? Are you projecting confidence that she will WANT to talk to you? In fact, a lot of the time the really goofy openers, where you are clearly not taking the girl seriously, work even better, because women are so used to guys approaching them all serious then belting out generic compliments hoping the girl likes them. When you are just having a good time playing around, that can be very attractive to women. Pay attention to your vibe, body language, and demeanor far more than you worry about your words. It is the nonverbal stuff that REALLY attracts & engages the opposite sex!