रफाल का integration API तो दे दिया है ना फ्रांस ने? जर्मनी तक को भी FCAS workshare नहीं मिला हमें क्या खाक मिलेगा। 5-7 साल बाद क्या? फिर से sitting ducks बन जायेंगे।
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अरे tau ... 1989 से we have been following the program. When your Mk1A was approved by DAC in that year, OEM was still scratching their balls which Radar to be put. And GTRE-Safran had a disagreement over workshare, for JV for engine between 2017-2019. This is on GoI 😂
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1) onus is on you to prove 🇫🇷 would integrate our systems & give us decent workshare
their behavior with Germany says - they will not compromise on that
2) also, its on you to prove that amca & ghatak will have "very basic" MUMT/CCA capabilities
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Spain only prefers Airbus if it gets enough workshare. Sweden has Saab, also no need for Airbus. And why do you never mention that Airbus is a French company?
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France's decision to scale back Eurodrone purchases has triggered a new dispute between Dassault and Airbus, with Dassault seeking compensation for reduced workshare. The clash comes days after the collapse of the FCAS fighter program.
thedefensenews.com/Dassault-…
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Lol, ending the SCAF program was literally asked by Dassault who couldn't bear the german "partners" always trying to renegotiate things that were agreed upon at the start, but of course g*rms will never ever admit that they were trying to shaft Dassault out of its IP/workshare.
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Ek diesel car engine to banta nhi bhai 6th Gen me workshare chahiye,vo bhi 59%🤐🫥😶🌫️😶😐
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Doesn't matter,end of the day,India should get the aircraft and technology. You talk about workshare,what can you contribute towards FCAS other than weapons? That's it. So u make up your weakness,with money
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The French are egotistical maniacs. They want to show the world that they can do everything on their own.
They will only give 15% workshare to India and ask for 50% funding. Mark my words.This is why Germany & UAE walked away from co-development with France (FCAS and Rafale F5
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FCAS will be a logistical nightmare. Will the French allow you to integrate them with your Russian ground based systems? Will the French give you proper workshare?
My thinking is that we should focus on AMCA ASAP and then we can use what've learned from AMCA for 6th gen
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FCAS could offer India greater technology transfer through France’s flexible collaboration approach and existing Rafale partnership, while GCAP offers a more structured programme. Final benefits depend on technology access, workshare, and industrial participation agreements.
#FCAS #India #SixthGenFighter #DefenceTechnology
PS : This is an AI generated video for illustration purposes
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So if we don't hv the "capability" then what we will give to france in FCAS except funding? Can we expect equal workshare with that? No
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FCAS could offer India greater technology transfer through France’s flexible collaboration approach and existing Rafale partnership, while GCAP offers a more structured programme. Final benefits depend on technology access, workshare, and industrial participation agreements.
#FCAS #India #SixthGenFighter #DefenceTechnology #AerospaceIndia
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Don’t know what this guy is smoking.
Even Leonardo’s CEO warned that adding a new partner could disrupt the schedule and workshare, and that GCAP must first “find the right balance.”
GCAP is already a delicate UK–Italy–Japan arrangement. There is currently no evidence that Germany would join as a 1st tier partner on equal footing with the founding members.
Same goes for a potential Saab Airbus DS or Saab Dassault agreement. We know nothing about that
Jun 14
How to European fighterjet:
1) Core axis with Airbus and Saab (🇩🇪🇪🇸🇸🇪)
2) Negotiate with the GCAP countries 🇬🇧🇯🇵🇮🇹 how to develope 2 specialized jets; a light, continental fighter jet for Europe (🇩🇪🇮🇹🇪🇸🇸🇪) and an heavy one for maritime operations and the pacific (🇯🇵🇬🇧).
3) Seek optional partners in Europe (F35 countries) 🇳🇴🇫🇮🇳🇱🇩🇰🇱🇹🇱🇻🇵🇱🇪🇪🇨🇿🇭🇺🇷🇴🇵🇹 🇨🇦; treat them fairly and allow them to chose wether they prefer the continental or the maritime version.
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This kind of strategy is not new. France and some other countries first promise a certain order magnitude. Then they get a workshare in relation to this. After a certain time they withdraw their promise, reduce the order and Germany has to pay.
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First FCAS. Now potentially MGCS.
Europe's challenge isn't technology. It's governance.
Building a next-generation tank or fighter is difficult.
Getting multiple nations and defense industries to agree on who gets the workshare may be even harder.
Strategic autonomy requires more than ambition. It requires alignment.
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🇩🇪🇫🇷 France may withdraw from the joint French-German tank development project MGCS (Main Ground Combat System). This was stated by Rheinmetall's CEO, Armin Papperger, who noted that a final decision has not yet been made, but such a risk exists.
According to Papperger, France is considering a significant budget cut, which could reduce expenses to less than half of what was originally planned.
He also added that the companies involved in the project — Rheinmetall, KNDS, and Thales — have received only 25 million euros in funding since the project's inception.
The MGCS program, launched in 2017 to replace the German Leopard 2 and French Leclerc tanks, has been postponed multiple times. This uncertainty arose shortly after the collapse of the joint fighter project, FCAS, which further strains French-German defense cooperation.
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IAF didnt choose 404.
IAF didnt have disagreement over workshare with Safran either.
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Kaveri with m88 core never looked better 🙂
Tbh that option should have been looked into seriously, but sadly iaf was happy with a completely imported 404 over a "half imported desi engine"
Here we are today, with no imported engines being delivered
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