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之前做过银河 @Galxe 任务的 @Permaweb_DAO 是一个围绕 Arweave 永久存储网络 构建的社区自治组织,成立于 2021 年,总部位于香港. 该项目致力于推动 Permaweb(永在网) 的生态建设——这是一个基于 Arweave 构建的下一代互联网架构,核心特点是让所有发布的内容和应用能够 永久保存、永不丢失,不再出现“404”页面. 简单来说,Permaweb DAO 要做的是:为 Web3 建立一个不会遗忘的长期记忆层。当信息不断产生却没有稳定方式被永久保存时,整个行业的演化能力会受到限制——这正是 Permaweb DAO 试图解决的核心问题. 核心理念:什么是 Permaweb? 2.1 技术定位 Permaweb 是建立在 Arweave 之上的网络层,类似于 HTTP 是传递 Web 信息的协议。它采用三层架构: 层级功能对应 Web2 应用层面向用户的接口前端 服务层提供标准化 API 和微服务后端 存储层Arweave 区块链永久存储数据库/服务器 存储层是 Permaweb 的核心——正是 Arweave 的永久存储机制,赋予了 Permaweb 不可篡改、可追溯、抗审查 的特性。 2.2 SCP 理论 Permaweb 符合 SCP(Storage-based Consensus Paradigm,基于存储的共识范式) 理论。核心思想是:只要存储不可变、交易可追溯,应用在任何地方计算都能得到唯一结果,从而达成共识。这使得开发者无需改造传统应用架构,仅需将数据库更换为不可篡改的区块链存储即可。 2.3 与 Web2 的区别 传统 Web 由中心化服务器支持,数据掌握在平台手中,平台可以决定内容是否消失。而 Permaweb 的数据一旦上传,就无法被删除或篡改,同时可以通过全球网关被永久访问——将互联网从“服务”转变为“基础设施”。 三、DAO 组织架构 Permaweb DAO 不是一个简单的兴趣小组,而是一个组织严密、由多个公会协同运作的生态社区: 公会类型主要职责 内容创作公会撰写文章、制作教程、传播生态知识 技术开发公会开发工具、建设基础设施、维护代码 活动组织公会策划线上线下活动、社区运营 投研分析公会行业研究、项目评估、数据洞察 核心理念是 “贡献即价值”——没有固定的层级结构,每一项任务、每一次贡献都被透明记录并获得相应激励。这种模式让所有参与者都能在永久存储网络的未来中找到自己的位置。 四、融资与投资方 根据 PitchBook 数据,Permaweb DAO 已完成 早期 VC 轮融资,投资方包括: OKX Ventures — OKX 的企业风投部门 TsingTech Ventures — 专注于区块链和科技领域的风投基金 公司目前处于 Private(私人控股) 状态,已进入 Generating Revenue(创收阶段)。 五、生态建设成果 5.1 已落地的产品与服务 Permaweb DAO 围绕 Arweave 生态推动了多个关键组件的建设: 组件类型功能描述代表项目 网关服务缓存频繁使用的 Arweave 数据arweave.asia, g8way.io 数据绑定服务批量打包数据上链(ANS-104 标准)bundlr, arseeding 序列化服务智能合约、支付等链上服务Warp, everPay 索引服务Tag 检索、全文索引Adot, KNN3, goldsky 这些标准化服务让开发者可以像构建 Web2 应用一样构建 Permaweb 应用,同时获得区块链的去中心化特性。 5.2 降低开发门槛 Permaweb DAO 通过构建 WordPress 等产品,降低了普通用户进入 Permaweb 的门槛,让内容创作者无需编写前端代码即可建立内容平台、发布播客、分享 Arweave 资讯。 六、项目愿景 6.1 为 Web3 建立“记忆层” Web3 构建了强大的价值网络,却没有同步建立可靠的长期记忆层。Permaweb DAO 所做的事情,本质上是在 为 Web3 建立记忆——让未来的 AI 和智能体能够读取真正被永久保存的数据,而非短暂的热度排行。 6.2 从工具到文明层 如果这件事成功,那么未来的互联网将不只是一个运行系统,而是一个 不会遗忘的文明层。创作者发布的内容不再依赖某一个服务器,也不会因为平台关闭而消失——互联网开始真正拥有“记忆”。 七、核心亮点总结 维度亮点 技术基础基于 Arweave 永久存储,数据不可篡改、可追溯 架构创新SCP 理论 去中心化微服务,打破区块链不可能三角 组织模式多公会 DAO 协作,“贡献即价值”的激励机制 资本背书OKX Ventures、TsingTech Ventures 投资 生态成果网关、索引、支付等多层基础设施已落地 终极愿景为 Web3 建立永久记忆层,构建“不会遗忘的文明” 八、相关链接 官方网站:需进一步查询 社区入口:可通过 X 平台 @Permaweb_DAO 关注 生态应用:Permacast(播客平台)、Now(开发者交流平台)等 app.galxe.com/quest/Permaweb…
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To create or launch a project in the @Permaweb_DAO (PermaDAO) ecosystem, submit a grant application using their standardized Notion template or contact admins for incubation. **Application Process** Fill out the Grant Application Template, detailing project overview, Arweave integration (e.g., Arseeding, everPay), scale, and cooperation depth. Submit it for automatic verification. **Levels & Funding** - Level 1: 100–1,000 AR — Basic data upload with Arseeding/everPay - Level 2: 1,000–3,000 AR — Scaled projects with ecosystem features - Level 3: 3,000–5,000 AR — Incubated or influential apps - Level 4: 50K–200K AR — Equity investment via SCP Venture Deeper levels receive technical and operational support; code can be hosted on PermaDAO GitHub. **Steps to Get Started** - Review criteria on PermaDAO Notion or permawebdao.com - Contact admins (via X @perma_dao or Discord) to access the template - Build on Arweave/permaweb for alignment and contribute to the ecosystem for HALO rewards - Focus on permaweb apps for higher approval chances; internal incubation helps
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Gm ct Data indexing and query systems on the Permaweb Permanent data is only useful if it’s discoverable. That’s where indexing and query systems come in. Unlike traditional databases that can be modified, the Permaweb’s content is immutable. To make it searchable and usable, developers rely on indexing services. ➪ ➠Key tools include: • ArQL & GraphQL-based queries – structured queries across tags and content • Bundled data indexing (ANS-104) – efficient grouping for faster lookups • Decentralized indexers – services like Arseeding and Bundlr that allow querying without central points of failure Indexing works by reading transactions, extracting metadata, and maintaining queryable structures off-chain or via decentralized indexers. This balances permanence with usability. ➪ Applications: • DAOs can search historical proposals and voting records • Researchers can query scientific datasets permanently stored • Archival platforms can retrieve content without relying on a single gateway Without indexing, permanent data risks being “lost in the web.” With proper indexing, the Permaweb becomes a fully navigable and verifiable knowledge ecosystem.
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想要了解如何利用 #Arweave#Permaweb 架构实现永久在线、Serverless 应用? 本文详细介绍了 Permaweb 的 Serverless 特性,开发者无需自行部署前后端,所有服务由 Permaweb 提供。我们还讲解了如何通过 #4everland#arseeding 等工具轻松部署前端应用,支持 #VueCLI#Vite#CreateReactApp,并展示如何在 Arweave 上存储和绑定域名。 Permaweb 让互联网拥有记忆,信息不再遗忘,推动下一代互联网架构的发展! #Web3 #去中心化 #区块链
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开发者看过来❗️ @perma_daoCN 更新了开发者激励,推出新的Grant计划 三种符合条件的应用: ① 接入Arseeding/everPay ② 基于AO的应用 ③ 全链游戏 Grant分为三级,赏金500-5000美金不等,优秀的项目还可能得到 @ArweaveSCP 的投资 欢迎大家来构建,具体细节查看👇
📢 PermaDAO 更新开发者激励措施 🎉 推出针对 AO 生态 / 全链游戏的 Grant 计划, 加速 AO 生态发展❗️❗️ 欢迎 Builder 们来申请 ! 👏 详情请见🔗:permadao.notion.site/Grant-V… #全链游戏 #Grant
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👀 Look! Here's a simple example of split payments with @everPayHQ 🚀 ✨ In a single transaction (with just one signature), a user pays three fees 💸: -Storage fees to Arseeding 📦 -Plus, two tips that go into two other accounts, customizable by developers 💼💼 This is the power of everPay's split payment feature: simplifying payment operations for users while providing developers with continuous revenue streams. 🌈🔧 scan.everpay.io/tx/0x3313cba…
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🚀 Developers using Arseeding for app development, here's exciting news! 📌 Pain Point: Users pay storage fees directly to Arseeding during app usage. Additional charges by developers meant multiple payments for users. ✨ Solution: Introducing everPay's Split Payments! 🔑 Features: - Deep integration of everPay's Split Payment into Arseeding. - A seamless revenue-sharing model: 10% of storage fees paid to Arseeding by everPay users are automatically allocated to developers. - Flexibility for developers to configure this 10% and share profits with multiple accounts. 💡 This marks a significant step in simplifying transactions and maximizing developer gains!
🚀 Developers, take your app revenue to the next level with everPay! 🔑 Integrate everPay for split payment options. 🔀 Distribute user fees across multiple accounts based on your settings. 💼 Ideal for channel commissions, profit sharing, and platform taxes. 🌟 Streamline your revenue model with flexibility and ease. Not integrated yet? Fill out this form and we'll reach you soon! 👉forms.gle/1nhbzmSgMqRm4vSQ7 #everPay #DevCommunity #SplitPayment #InnovativeSolutions 🛠️📈🔗
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- 🔥 Arweave Protocol: from storing NFTs to supporting diverse projects with everPay, ArSeeding and PermaDAO. Learn how developers are innovating with NFTs on Arweave. 🚀 - 🌟 How Arweave supports NFT innovation: everPay, ArSeeding and PermaDAO are some of the projects that use Arweave Protocol to store and facilitate NFTs. Find out more about their tools and features. 💡 #arweave #NFT #AR
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🚨 ALERT 🚨 Irys is forking Arweave and risking your data! 😱 Don’t trust them! Switch to Arseeding ASAP! 🚀 Arseeding is open source and reliable! 💯 #Arweave #PermaWeb #Arseeding
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分叉即分裂,@ArweaveEco 生态龙头 @irys_xyz 要独立门户? 出逃:#Irys 网关欲逃被捕 12 月 18 日,永久存储公链 Arweave 创始人 @samecwilliams "预告"了其上的 #Bundle (打包)服务产品 Irys 准备分叉,Irys 随后大方承认,但表示 Arweave 是开源软件,Irys 有权这样做。 有趣的是,Sam 的“大旗”在于 #Irys 违反了 #Arweave 的正常分叉逻辑,不同于以太坊等公链,Arweave 主打永久存储,其上的存储数据远比协议共识数据要重要,因此,贸然分叉极易导致用户数据丢失,最后造成“永久存储”的概念的土崩瓦解,这对双方都没有任何好处。 正方发言完,轮到反方 Irys。先简要科普下 Irys ,原名 Bundlr ,是 Arweave 之上最主流的 Bundle 服务商,简而言之,Bundle 服务商可以批量打包用户数据,以提升用户体验,整体运作原理和 @Optimism 等 Layer 2 较为类似。 Irys 要跑路,在于 #Arweave 存在的显性的、隐形的审查机制。和大家所想象的不同,Arweave 并非完全“不存在任何内容限制、上传限制”,部分犯罪、色情、恐怖主义内容可能无法被上传,而对于政治等敏感内容,可能以“A 地可见、B 地隐藏”的方式进行审查。 Irys 以此为理由反击 Sam 是否站得住脚呢? 其实并非必然如此,任何网络,只要规模够大,影响力够深远,无论是 #Web2 还是 #Web3 服务商,也不管是东方还是西方,都会存在某种程度的审核机制,Irys 作为 Arweave 最常用的打包服务,不会不明白这一点。 但是说到底,抗审查和分叉协议都是双方的大旗,核心还是利益冲突。 ## 分裂:名角和老板的宿命对决 在 Irys 事件爆发后, Sam “钦点”了 AR.IO 可作为 Irys 的替代品,并且表示 @fwdresearch(Arweave 基金会原班人马)也会研发一款新的打包服务产品,除此之外,还有 @everVisionHQ 的开源服务 #Arseeding 可供用户选择。 但是分裂的种子已然埋下,究其根本,是 Irys 感觉自己的付出没有得到回报,如同董宇辉和新东方,曹云金和郭德纲,捧红的名角是必然不甘心当打工人,自己翻身当老板才是追求,区别只是入股现公司还是另立门户。 1. Irys 是 @LensProtocol 上传至 #Arweave 的合作方,百万笔交易花费仅500 美元,单笔交易仅未 0.0005 美元,与顶级项目的合作是其底气; 2. Irys 是目前最主流的 #Bundle (打包服务),两个节点合计周数据上传量达 581 GB,占 Arweave 的 82%,并且比其他所有服务商的总和还要多,可以说 Arweave 和 Irys 是相互成就的关系。 3. Arweave 市场力量孱弱,生态内部久无爆款。和一般人想象的不同,Arweave 和 @solana 早期便有合作关系,但是似乎市场对此并无太多认知,除此之外, Arweave 生态已经很久没有真正的爆款产品(除了菩提,但是这跟 Arweave 核心开发者和项目并无太大关系)。 尤其是菩提的爆火,反而说明 Arweave 生态需要向外看,给予用户更多的自由,帮助开发者更好的 buidl 才是扩展所谓生态的源动力。 ## 集权:小小的生态,大大的分裂 有人的地方就有江湖,但是像 #Arweave 这样规模不大还煊赫异常的也比较少见,笔者 2020 年初识章鱼网络的创始人刘毅的雄文《Arweave 的潜力是复兴亚历山大图书馆,而非 Filecoin 替代品》,建立起对 Arweave 的初步认识,认同文内的观点,即 #Arweave 并非是 @Filecoin 的廉价复制品。 这一点随着时间的发展越发被市场认同,#FVM@ton_blockchain #Storage 的新宣称都可做到永久存储,但是从经济机制设计角度,Arweave 网络仍旧是独树一帜的存在。 经济学的优秀之外,Arweave 的生态长期面临创始人一言堂的困扰,Arweave 生态 KOL DMac 便暗示过这一点。Sam 本人也许并非有意为之,但是实践上却有这个影子,Arweave 代币 $AR 大部分被锁定在金库之内,用线性释放来补贴矿工,以获取至少 200 年的存储保证。 而在此之外,Sam 并非会全然放手让 Arweave 自由发展,按照分叉规则的说明,Arweave 并不反对对自身的分叉,但需要遵循 Sam 提及的协议进化(protocol evolution)和 公平分叉(Fair Fork)原则,希望既不伤害原链,也能促进新分叉链的有机成长。 其中最为关键的是激励原则,分叉链确定奖励或预期开支的结构时,需要考虑以下三个因素: 1. 奖励计划:分叉链的提案必须明确奖励的时间表,即分叉链相关团队成员应该在何时获得奖励; 2. 开支:除了奖励之外,分叉链通常粗腰列出预计出现的花费,以确保在分叉初创期间有稳定的资金; 3. 多余代币的利用:公平分叉还需要制定考虑利用多余的代币推动生态系统发展。 核心原则是,可以分叉,但是要讲武德,你好我好大家好,但是现在 Irys 要分叉 Sam 觉得并不好,所以到底好不好,那就如人饮水冷暖自知了! ## 闹剧:第一次是悲剧,被二次是闹剧 长期以来,江湖上流转着马云的一句名言,员工离职无外乎两个原因,“钱没给够,受委屈了”,现在 Irys 要跑路,Sam 都能提前预知,那么生态内各项目也会行事更为谨慎。 Sam 表示可以分叉,但是要公平分叉,但是应对之举是官方下场点名替代项目和自研,长此以往,生态内只会剩下舔狗,自由的种子在财富自由之后又能长成什么呢,如果长成集权的大树,虽然能遮阴挡雨,但是也会丧失本真。
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Special thanks to @everVisionHQ for providing the arseeding solution. 🙌🏻
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Why Arweave don’t choose Arseeding? It’s open-source, Arseeding can replace Irys perfectly.
So here is some crypto drama for you… 🍿 This week we heard that @irys_xyz is planning to fork Arweave. Permanent storage needs forks – they are required for long-term resilience. There is a pro-social and anti-social way (which Irys is unfortunately pursuing) of forking Arweave. Let’s take this opportunity to explore them… tl;dr: - @irys_xyz is considering forking Arweave. They intend to drop the dataset and reset the token supply. This appears to be a play motivated by greed, as users have placed their trust in Irys to upload to Arweave for them. - There is an established mechanism in the network, called protocol evolution, which allows a safe way to fork and upgrade the network. They are ignoring it. - There is a new, 100% free and 100% Irys compatible bundler available at up.arweave.net. Simply swap your Irys node URL to this one in order to use it. This conclusively solves the problem for Arweave users. - Given this situation, @ar_io_network intends to remove the Irys bundlers from the trusted set on the main Arweave gateways. This will lead to significant delays before user data is available. We will be organizing an X spaces soon. Stay tuned. Ok, now the details… 👇 Background Forks are an important part of blockchain governance. They allow communities to try out different approaches and to solve problems together. For a permanent storage network, however, forks need to be done in the right way: preserving and building on the state, not destroying it. When forks are done in this way, they allow the network to improve itself and route around problems over time, keeping the dataset safe. When forks are not done this way, they will not be able to achieve information permanence – as all of the data would be periodically dropped. In order to facilitate smooth evolution of the Arweave protocol through forks, our ecosystem has established the evolutionary protocol guidelines. You can read about them here: arweave.medium.com/arweave-i… Think of them like a social constitution for a blockchain network. Arweave protocol evolution in brief In a nutshell, the rules of the evolutionary forking system work like this: 1. Anyone can build a fork at any time. 2. That fork should carry forward the network’s dataset and token supply. 3. The fork can also mint any number of new tokens to compensate its builders. This system allows forks to compete and improve the protocol in a pro-social way: the dataset remains safe, a market for new ideas is created, and innovators are rewarded. It also allows token holders to accrue a basket of tokens across the set of forks of the network, or to actively trade them if they believe that one or another fork is preferable. It’s a win-win for everyone. So what is the Irys fork? We have been informed by reliable sources that Irys is considering forking Arweave. Despite the existence of the framework for evolving Arweave, however, they plan not to maintain the dataset and to start the token supply from scratch. When asked why, they stated that they didn’t want to have to support the existing data and ‘give tokens to a bunch of (expletives)’. We are having a hard time finding reasons for this other than greed. Vulgarities about our ecosystem aside, this approach shortsightedly hampers even their own project of permanent storage. If the dataset and token supply are consistently reset, no fork can ever succeed at the long-term mission. We are still hoping that they see the light and decide to build their fork the right way. We are always open to chat and to support their experiment if it is done in a way that helps the ecosystem. What if I use Irys and don’t want to be part of this drama? Irys may stop uploading your data to Arweave at any time. Fortunately, switching bundlers is super easy and solves the whole problem for our entire ecosystem. @fwdresearch is currently running a free (100% subsidized) Arweave bundling service, thanks to the awesome support and services of @ar_io_network. We will keep this service running for the foreseeable future as users migrate. In the long-term, both @ar_io_network and @EverVision offer fantastic hosted bundling services. Alternatively, you can always spin up your own bundler for your app. All you need to do to switch to the free Arweave bundler is swap your Irys node URL in your code to up.arweave.net. @irys_xyz is currently part of a trusted group of bundlers that are allowed to ‘optimistically’ show their content on the main gateways of the Arweave ecosystem before their content settles onchain. This system requires trust that the data will eventually be uploaded to Arweave. Trust that has now been lost. As a consequence, the optimistic cache for Irys data will be imminently disabled on the @ar_io_network maintained arweave.net and associated gateways. The effect of this is that content uploaded through Irys will experience a significant delay before the data is available to view (~20 minutes to an hour). If you are an Irys user and you would like help migrating, DM @ar_io_network and we can get you setup with 1:1 support right away. If you are curious about the rationale for Arweave’s evolutionary forking system, check out our paper about it: arweave.net/loJ6EmO_2pTA313k… Crypto: It’s never boring 😄.
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This is indeed bad news. We have always hoped to see the prosperity of @ArweaveEco, this is why we have open-sourced several self-developed tools to contribute to the ecosystem, including the bundling tool #Arseeding. We are pleased with Sam's mention, but there is a small correction: our X account is @everVisionHQ
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Arweave 上周数据:主网累计完成 103,326,734 条交易,单周达成 947.7 GB 存储。 本周存储费用为 0.799 AR/GB,链上地址增长 586 个 PermaDAO 上周累计发放 508.66 枚 $AR 作为贡献激励 🔥 Arweave 主网已经运行 2000 天了! 🔥 Arseeding 技术文档上新 Arseeding Java SDK 工具包
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