Israel is not perfect, but it is a strategic ally and the only democratic society, a society with very similar ideology to ours, in the Middl East, so I am less inclined to be as concerned about the pro-Israel lobby over the pro-China or pro-Qatar lobbies, unless you can show me how it has negatively affected the US without the usual talking points.
The problem is you won’t highlight anything actually negative, you will just regurgitate the same tired talking points that you put in the silly response to my post, like Israel somehow having undue influence despite the fact that it barely makes the top 10 in foreign lobbies and AIPAC isn’t even on the top 150 of domestic lobbies.
You may bring up that AIPAC donates to many candidates, but then you will immediately disregard the other PACs that also donate to those candidates, usually in far higher numbers.
You even claimed Israel was behind 9/11, which is blatantly false and not backed up by reality.
This is what you people always do. You make the argument about falsities and conspiracy logic, not reality.
Also, the Iraq War was in no way starter by Jews nor attributable to Israel in any way. They vehemently disagreed with us invading Iraq. They feared our war would further destabilize the region, allowing Iran to more easily push and support proxy forces, and cause more trouble for them.
And that’s exactly what happened.
You are shifting the blame from Bush and the follow on administrations to fit your false narrative.
This is why having conversations with people like you is so fruitless, as your entire narrative is based off of fantasies and conspiracies that are not backed up with any semblance of fact.
You will show me a video of some random Jewish person saying or doing something stupid, as if American Christians don’t say and do stupid and terrible things all of the time.
It’s just stupid.
It’s also how I know you fell for the exact propaganda I said you did, because you do nothing but repeat it with no ability to critically think or evolve your opinion when facts enter.
So, yeah… congrats, you are dumber than an illiterate Russian peasant from 1903.
The truth is not this black and white. Israeli interests have had a hugely disproportionate influence over our government relative to their population size and the same goes for Jewish Americans. The people who started the Iraq War and staged 9/11 were mostly at least on paper proud Zionists and Israel supporters.
That doesn’t magically justify anything a bunch of pagan socialists who hate all Jews are saying, but it is a real factor here that we lose credibility when we try to downplay and white wash.