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I agree it shouldn't on the L1 layer. At same time, it should add op_CAT, and, better, op_STARK, to allow for L2s to deal with that (with all the risks and benefits). The worst outcome of this would be for Bitcoiners to say "let's do nothing at all". That will continue to harm Bitcoin.

you're confused. The formal verification would show that some new circuit is gud. It won't and cannot prove that the buggy circuit wasn't exploited. But I explained already how to deal with that. Track the size of the shielded pool over next week.

The existential question of crypto is now whether ”AI-enhanced bug finding” strengthens the defenders more than the attackers Some people think so. They think ”well, this means that we’re going to have swarms of AI agents diligently watching over every minutiae of the protocol in real time!”. And from this lens, the ZEC exploit patch is concrete evidence of exactly that For others (like @VitalikButerin) it means that writing formally verified code will be a demystified art, strengthening things further. ”Writing secure code has moved from impossible to hard” is a verbatim quote from him, last month For a third category of people, and presumably the largest group, the thought is ”when humans move their weapons from knives to guns to rocket launchers, they’re more likely to have things blow up in their face, regardless of which side has more of them”

this is the best bitcoin podcast episode i’ve listened to all year, especially for those that are interested in quantum a background note: i first listened @danboneh talk on the topic of quantum what must’ve been almost 10 years ago. to me, he’s the one expert who demonstrates the most knowledge depth (and humility) on the subject, and teaches me the most when he speaks recently, dan helped come up with a way to run Shor’s algorithm with 10x fewer physical qubits than previously thought (co-author on the 2026 Google paper) my tl;dr of the episode: his baseline characterization of quantum computing isn’t as something that might be fundamentally impossible. that error correction would get exponentially hard in the same way that breaking elliptic curve cryptography in the classical sense gets exponentially hard with the number of bits in a key It is hard for sure, but not ”exponentially hard” at the same time he doesn’t personally think CRQCs powerful enough to attack bitcoin is going to happen before 2035 (sidenote: it should be obvious to anyone that the deadline to reach safety isn’t ”the date when the smart people think an attack is most likely to happen”, but way before then. the question is rather ”by when is it even at a small risk?” and optimize for that) he gives the reason for why it is unlikely to happen before 2035: it is not a principle of physics or of human progress, just a matter of funding. if quantum had the same level of funding that ai does, the calculus would be entirely different (the threat of attack would come much sooner) to connect what he say to what some quantum critics like @jamesob, @reardencode or @robin_linus within the bitcoin community are saying, he does have the humility to acknowledge that it is *possible* error correction doesn’t scale. nobody knows for sure until it is proven. that is a wholly different thing than confidently rejecting outright that it will ever scale, as if it’s something you can know and base your plans on, which is effectively what @jamesob, @reardencode and @robin_linus are doing he compares quantum computing to flight, the wright brothers, and thinks that quantum computing already had its ”kitty hawk” moment (when the wright brothers flew 37 meters in 1903) with the google willow chip in 2024 (proving scalable fault-tolerant quantum computers are possible) ”error corrected quantum computing is not a theory, it has been proven to work” regarding the notion that no quantum computer has factored a number higher than 21, dan says that that's true, but that it's only just now that these tools are coming together. it's happening right now. the entire podcast is a treasure trove of information and is probably the single highest signal thing you can listen to if you want to get up to speed on the latest in ”quantum computing vs Bitcoin” from someone who actually knows what he’s talking about congrats @isabelfoxenduke on this stellar interview

Add op_cat or op_STARK. This way Bitcoin contained but those who want get self custodial privacy at scale, in post quantum secure way.

I built a very small language model on plebslop. How small? Small enough to fit in a single *standard* bitcoin transaction. There is now a plebslop generator on every Bitcoin node. The UI includes client-side inference code. It loads the weights and does it all in-browser

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