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Replying to @InfiniteWaters
x.com/immaculate9e/status/20… Still grounded and aligned, for life, it ain’t no mismatch or miscalculation, because once you’re truly Awakened….🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 #commandcenter #hyperalignment #Alpha #key #hypercoherence #homeostases #healthiness
Replying to @InfiniteWaters
x.com/immaculate9e/status/20… They’re mad as hell because they can’t get this advanced nor does their cortex seem to function properly making biological functions act accordingly, but brain damage can leave a profound mark on your mental performances!
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Criticality, life, is about navigating the line between catabolic cascade / hypocoherence / head death on the one side and anabolic cascade / hypercoherence / crystal death on the other. That is to say, staying liquid - not gas, not solid. Living systems are liquid. Wet math.
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The MB-X.01 project integrates TruthΩ, Lya, Omniabase, Third Observer, UPE, and Hypercoherence as a self-consistent cognitive architecture for measuring logical and semantic coherence.
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The MB-X.01 project integrates TruthΩ, Lya, Omniabase, Third Observer, UPE, and Hypercoherence as a self-consistent cognitive architecture for measuring logical and semantic coherence.
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“I’m considering renaming what I’ve been calling holonic malcoherence (hypercoherence like cancer or narcissism, hypocoherence like autoimmune disease or borderline) to metabolic integrity, with “anabolic cascade” and “catabolic cascade” replacing the terms above. Does this better capture the dynamics implied, and what might I be losing in the change? To confirm you see what I’m gesturing at please identify three more examples of each failure mode.”
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Updating my terminology: “Stable holonic coherence” is now “holonic metabolic integrity”. “Hypercoherence” is now “anabolic cascade”. “Hypocoherence” is now “catabolic cascade”. “Malcoherence” is now “metabolic decoupling”, which enables either anabolic or catabolic cascade.
Replying to @mykola
Claude agrees! Holonic Metabolic Integrity is the container. It's not coherence, it's metabolic integrity. Metabolic capture is when anabolic and catabolic processes become decoupled, the holon enters free-fall until it terminates in either rigidity or dissolution.
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I'm wondering if the hypercoherence/hypocoherence language is the right frame for this set of concepts. Digging into some cybernetics I'm finding "Ashby's ultrastability", Beer's "Viable System Model" and maybe "Autopoiesis" as prior art around this specific tension.
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If hypercoherence gives rise to cancer (the thing hardens against environmental feedback and thus crystalizes into an out of control assertion of self)... Is the hypocoherent analog Autoimmune Disease? When the environment successfully overrides the boundaries of the thing, dissolving it?
Replying to @mykola
“Holonic Coherence” lives here. I define it as the goldilocks zone between: - hypocherence (walls dissolve, the thing is subsumed into its container, it never existed. Cellular rupture, conquered civilization, codependency, heat death) and -hypercoherence (walls rigidify, entirely block out container to assert total contextual sovereignty, Blake’s Urizen - cancer, narcissism, empire, crystal death) Stable holonic coherence is constantly adapting to thread the needle, to sail between Scylla and Charybdis. This is @visakanv’s famous “ayyyy lmao”, this is metabolism, this is life.
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“Holonic Coherence” lives here. I define it as the goldilocks zone between: - hypocherence (walls dissolve, the thing is subsumed into its container, it never existed. Cellular rupture, conquered civilization, codependency, heat death) and -hypercoherence (walls rigidify, entirely block out container to assert total contextual sovereignty, Blake’s Urizen - cancer, narcissism, empire, crystal death) Stable holonic coherence is constantly adapting to thread the needle, to sail between Scylla and Charybdis. This is @visakanv’s famous “ayyyy lmao”, this is metabolism, this is life.
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Replying to @adam_kranz
Huh? this is philosophy! Hypercoherence is left hemisphere capture is yang overload is the crystalline death - form asserting itself too rigidly. Hypocoherence is the opposite, form failing to assert a boundary, context eats content. The boundary is required to individuate.
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Yeah this! Narcissism vs borderline, for instance. Hypercoherence seems to be easier to find examples of than hypocoherence, this confused me for a minute but it’s survivorship bias. We mostly don’t hear about hypocohered holons they wash out.
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Yeah I am generally open to the “skillful means” argument but then I see a lot of folks latch onto exactly the wrong parts of it with what Yeats identified as passionate intensity. This is why I’m marginal in defender’s spaces, I find a lot of the core folks there are captured by the imperial religious egregore in precisely the most harmful ways and I don’t know how to talk to them about it they just get really mean? So IDK, I commune with spirit in the ways that work for me and I feel grateful that I think I can mostly avoid hypercoherence into dogma and hypocoherence into madness. But fuck if I can teach that, you just gotta feel the groove.
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Replying to @Jeanvaljean689
I feel like it is an instance of hypercoherence doubling down and emulating the compensatory dynamic. It’s a left brain’s left brain that does a decent job generating a right brain, IMO, but it’s not embodied and not in the world so it *can’t* do actual RH stuff?
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It’s not just brain hemisphere it’s fractal. Other forms of hypercoherence are cancer, empire, narcissism. Other forms of hypocoherence are borderline, cell wall rupture, bikeshedding. This is yin and yang, failure modes of over-indexing on one or the other.
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Oh jeez I have a whole thing for this. Hypercoherence is left hemisphere capture, it’s when an entity disregards the system it’s embedded in. Hypocoherence is the opposite it’s when a system privileges its context over itself, it dissolves.
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Replying to @prerat @eshear @gwern
This might be a useful tool for recognizing identity trauma, I think. In this lens, the blanket smothers the connection to the body and the self becomes ungrounded as a result. Thus primed for hypercoherence / left hemisphere capture.
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So Jung saw it too. Blake had Urizen, Jung had the fisher king, McGilchrist had hemispheres, Dewart had ontic consciousness. Hypercoherence. We construct a reductive virtual reality and live within it. And if we don’t stop we will destroy the earth’s ability to support life.
Replying to @chercher_ai
The Fisher King
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Is AGI truly intelligent, or just advanced computation? Hegel’s philosophy suggests true consciousness (the “Subject”) requires dialectical growth & social recognition, not just algorithms. Critiques of AI’s “hypercoherence” echo this: can machines grasp nuance & contradiction?
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Replying to @eshear
Hypercoherence (freezing) vs hypocoherence (evaporating)
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Disconnection is hypercoherence I think, right? Though it could also be, like, a level-jump. You disconnect from your host environment completely, and thus become connected only to your host’s host environment… hmm.
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