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ostrasyn @ostrasyn

⟦Just checking in... oh god, oh god it's worse than before.⟧

Joined September 2023
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LGBTQ folk face increased risks in many of the same spaces (x.com/ostrasyn/status/178312…).

ostrasyn@ostrasyn
24 Apr 2024
Replying to @juha_remes @UpisDown222 @vevlol @annMcdo17856479 @LottieHistory @KirstieMAllsopp @WBlathwayt
And we know that LGBTQ folk do in fact face issues in these spaces (e.g., doi.org/10.1016/j.adolescenc…, doi.org/10.1542/peds.2018-29…, doi.org/10.1001/jamanetworko…, doi.org/10.1542/peds.2017-30…). So whatever @/BlancmangeBlob's "substance" is doing, it's not giving us any insight into why this ...
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This also increases the risk for anyone even perceived to be LGBTQ. It isn't resolved by narrowing the analysis to a single factor that, in any case, GC commentators tend to equivocate on anyway.
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Replying to @astridcostigan @hasitcometothat @Dorasalter @StitchingSin @SocialistSauce @ghostoftoast @LeftNotWoke2rn @RadFemme74 @Nick3lBets @latsot @K60617909 @EffinMaggie @coolaunt2021 @valdore420 @JLippy76 @fletcherkathy8 @DerpyErika @bluebirdjam @TheGoldenMask5 @MsPrettyDerby @brenda_archer @huntcraw @Hereticalturf @Gibson_U_Witch @kittywoodoshea @Stillweeping2 @vanessa_blk @h_alliekat @fujodemon @MarsJaneM @ergo_praxis @Qyilldrisstessa @NoRedText @tatapansepatu @richtofenlover @Biotransgurl @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @whackam0l3lol @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @0Tamahawk3 @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204
I am very specifically judging those, like Jo, who are treating those who engage in sex acts she doesn't like as "degenerates." She doesn't have a critique, by the way. She just has a disgust reaction.
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Exactly this: x.com/coolaunt2021/status/20…

Danielle@coolaunt2021
Apr 29
Replying to @astridcostigan @ostrasyn @hasitcometothat @Dorasalter @StitchingSin @SocialistSauce @ghostoftoast @LeftNotWoke2rn @RadFemme74 @Nick3lBets @latsot @K60617909 @EffinMaggie @valdore420 @JLippy76 @fletcherkathy8 @DerpyErika @bluebirdjam @TheGoldenMask5 @MsPrettyDerby @brenda_archer @huntcraw @Hereticalturf @Gibson_U_Witch @kittywoodoshea @Stillweeping2 @vanessa_blk @h_alliekat @fujodemon @MarsJaneM @ergo_praxis @Qyilldrisstessa @NoRedText @tatapansepatu @richtofenlover @Biotransgurl @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @whackam0l3lol @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @0Tamahawk3 @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204
And that’s fine. The issue is shaming others for being different.
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Replying to @astridcostigan @hasitcometothat @kittywoodoshea @Stillweeping2 @SocialistSauce @h_alliekat @coolaunt2021 @JLippy76 @Hereticalturf @TheGoldenMask5 @EffinMaggie @MarsJaneM @Dorasalter @brenda_archer @ergo_praxis @vanessa_blk @RadFemme74 @latsot @Qyilldrisstessa @NoRedText @tatapansepatu @shamanspirit13 @richtofenlover @Biotransgurl @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @huntcraw @fletcherkathy8 @bluebirdjam @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @0Tamahawk3 @StitchingSin @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1 @GoodbyesToLight @89Batmobile89
I mean, yes, *clearly* you think you don't "need to read"—even to respond to two threads: x.com/ostrasyn/status/204329…

ostrasyn@ostrasyn
Apr 12
Replying to @astridcostigan @hasitcometothat @kittywoodoshea @Stillweeping2 @SocialistSauce @h_alliekat @coolaunt2021 @JLippy76 @Hereticalturf @TheGoldenMask5 @EffinMaggie @MarsJaneM @Dorasalter @brenda_archer @ergo_praxis @vanessa_blk @RadFemme74 @latsot @Qyilldrisstessa @NoRedText @tatapansepatu @shamanspirit13 @richtofenlover @Biotransgurl @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @huntcraw @fletcherkathy8 @bluebirdjam @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @0Tamahawk3 @StitchingSin @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1 @GoodbyesToLight @89Batmobile89
That's not all there is to affirming care! Did you even read the threads?!
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Seems to be a long-running theme: x.com/ostrasyn/status/203680…

ostrasyn@ostrasyn
Mar 25
Replying to @vanessa_blk @Stillweeping2 @kittywoodoshea @RadFemme74 @SocialistSauce @K60617909 @badsophistry @1dearly_beloved @TheGoldenMask5 @bluebirdjam @huntcraw @MarsJaneM @Dorasalter @fletcherkathy8 @brenda_archer @Qyilldrisstessa @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @Hereticalturf @coolaunt2021 @EffinMaggie @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @JLippy76 @hasitcometothat @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @h_alliekat @latsot @0Tamahawk3 @cptmbf @StitchingSin @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @BiardMacGuineas @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1 @GoodbyesToLight @89Batmobile89 @grok @_Witch_of_Aeaea @GenCritThink @g_akablacksquid @SonHogMkII @forevershallon @joolzzt
I've realised that GCs don't read; they just react. So anything that is lengthier than a single tweet is usually for others.
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Replying to @astridcostigan @hasitcometothat @kittywoodoshea @Stillweeping2 @SocialistSauce @h_alliekat @coolaunt2021 @JLippy76 @Hereticalturf @TheGoldenMask5 @EffinMaggie @MarsJaneM @Dorasalter @brenda_archer @ergo_praxis @vanessa_blk @RadFemme74 @latsot @Qyilldrisstessa @NoRedText @tatapansepatu @shamanspirit13 @richtofenlover @Biotransgurl @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @huntcraw @fletcherkathy8 @bluebirdjam @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @0Tamahawk3 @StitchingSin @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1 @GoodbyesToLight @89Batmobile89
Um, yes, we do need affirming care. My god, how can you say something so ridiculous?
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And "forced teaming"? You mean like how GCs try to use us like shields to deflect from their bigotry even after most of us have told them to fuck right off with their repackaged homophobia? Like that?
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Replying to @MarsJaneM @BopBoopBeepBeep @huntcraw @RadFemme74 @vanessa_blk @StitchingSin @XpTa_Z @brenda_archer @Hereticalturf @hasitcometothat @coolaunt2021 @kittywoodoshea @latsot @Stillweeping2 @Qyilldrisstessa @NoRedText @tatapansepatu @shamanspirit13 @richtofenlover @Biotransgurl @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @SocialistSauce @Dorasalter @fletcherkathy8 @bluebirdjam @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @EffinMaggie @TheGoldenMask5 @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @JLippy76 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @h_alliekat @0Tamahawk3 @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1
For the record, I don't believe you have said anything relevant to the above. The part of the thread you are referring to, so far as I can trace it, has little to do with it. But this thread is extremely splintered, so maybe @ergo_praxis knows what you're talking about.
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I've reread it a few times now and don't at all see how what you're talking about *there*, in that part of the 🧵, is connected to the above in the way you claim it is. Could it still be connected and I'm just not following? Sure. But, atm, I don't see it. x.com/redfollowsred/status/2…

Carolina Valencia@redfollowsred
Apr 6
Replying to @ostrasyn @MarsJaneM @ergo_praxis @BopBoopBeepBeep @huntcraw @RadFemme74 @vanessa_blk @StitchingSin @XpTa_Z @brenda_archer @Hereticalturf @hasitcometothat @coolaunt2021 @kittywoodoshea @latsot @Stillweeping2 @Qyilldrisstessa @NoRedText @tatapansepatu @shamanspirit13 @richtofenlover @Biotransgurl @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @SocialistSauce @Dorasalter @fletcherkathy8 @bluebirdjam @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @EffinMaggie @TheGoldenMask5 @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @JLippy76 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @h_alliekat @0Tamahawk3 @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1
im waiting for his rebuttal of my necessary condition on a different subthread, to see where it leads, him having already agreed with me, kinda vigorously, how compound statements are valid necessary conditions for exclusionary categories. we'll see.
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Replying to @ergo_praxis @MarsJaneM @BopBoopBeepBeep @huntcraw @RadFemme74 @vanessa_blk @StitchingSin @XpTa_Z @brenda_archer @Hereticalturf @hasitcometothat @coolaunt2021 @kittywoodoshea @latsot @Stillweeping2 @Qyilldrisstessa @NoRedText @tatapansepatu @shamanspirit13 @richtofenlover @Biotransgurl @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @SocialistSauce @Dorasalter @fletcherkathy8 @bluebirdjam @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @EffinMaggie @TheGoldenMask5 @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @JLippy76 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @h_alliekat @0Tamahawk3 @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1
objectively, "wrong"—it's a problem because they are wrong *for that person*, because, for them, they may undermine their health and wellbeing (or their "functional integrity") overall.
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This is important because you are ignoring this in your determination of what the "proper" counterfactuals are.
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Replying to @redfollowsred @MarsJaneM @ergo_praxis @BopBoopBeepBeep @huntcraw @RadFemme74 @vanessa_blk @StitchingSin @XpTa_Z @brenda_archer @Hereticalturf @hasitcometothat @coolaunt2021 @kittywoodoshea @latsot @Stillweeping2 @Qyilldrisstessa @NoRedText @tatapansepatu @shamanspirit13 @richtofenlover @Biotransgurl @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @SocialistSauce @Dorasalter @fletcherkathy8 @bluebirdjam @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @EffinMaggie @TheGoldenMask5 @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @JLippy76 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @h_alliekat @0Tamahawk3 @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1
This is a strange understanding of "health" x.com/redfollowsred/status/2…

Carolina Valencia@redfollowsred
Mar 18
Replying to @MarsJaneM @Dorasalter @fletcherkathy8 @kittywoodoshea @bluebirdjam @brenda_archer @Stillweeping2 @SocialistSauce @Qyilldrisstessa @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @Hereticalturf @coolaunt2021 @EffinMaggie @TheGoldenMask5 @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @RadFemme74 @JLippy76 @hasitcometothat @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @h_alliekat @latsot @0Tamahawk3 @cptmbf @StitchingSin @DerpyErika @vanessa_blk @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @huntcraw @BiardMacGuineas @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1 @GoodbyesToLight @89Batmobile89 @grok @_Witch_of_Aeaea @GenCritThink @g_akablacksquid @SonHogMkII @forevershallon @joolzzt @Purplewykr
Wrong. Teleology is a fundamental, and ineliminable part of medicine, biology, and language in general. "organ" literally comes from the greek "tool". "health" is basically parts functioning with variables within average functional ranges.
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As before, I think ergo addresses some of the issues with it here (x.com/ostrasyn/status/203685…).

ostrasyn@ostrasyn
Mar 25
Replying to @StitchingSin @Stillweeping2 @SocialistSauce @kittywoodoshea @RadFemme74 @K60617909 @badsophistry @1dearly_beloved @TheGoldenMask5 @bluebirdjam @huntcraw @vanessa_blk @MarsJaneM @Dorasalter @fletcherkathy8 @brenda_archer @Qyilldrisstessa @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @Hereticalturf @coolaunt2021 @EffinMaggie @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @JLippy76 @hasitcometothat @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @h_alliekat @latsot @0Tamahawk3 @cptmbf @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @BiardMacGuineas @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1 @GoodbyesToLight @89Batmobile89 @grok @_Witch_of_Aeaea @GenCritThink @g_akablacksquid @SonHogMkII @forevershallon @joolzzt
And they don't seem to get why that sort of argument could have issues?
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Replying to @MarsJaneM @ergo_praxis @BopBoopBeepBeep @huntcraw @RadFemme74 @vanessa_blk @StitchingSin @XpTa_Z @brenda_archer @Hereticalturf @hasitcometothat @coolaunt2021 @kittywoodoshea @latsot @Stillweeping2 @Qyilldrisstessa @NoRedText @tatapansepatu @shamanspirit13 @richtofenlover @Biotransgurl @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @SocialistSauce @Dorasalter @fletcherkathy8 @bluebirdjam @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @EffinMaggie @TheGoldenMask5 @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @JLippy76 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @h_alliekat @0Tamahawk3 @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1
I'm not interested in your opinion on whatever chart *you* think is the "correct" one.
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The more general point being made is that you can't agree because you are, as always, equivocating.
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Replying to @SocialistSauce @tatapansepatu @NoRedText @shamanspirit13 @RadFemme74 @richtofenlover @hasitcometothat @vanessa_blk @Biotransgurl @coolaunt2021 @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @MarsJaneM @uzidmanslefttit @huntcraw @Dorasalter @fletcherkathy8 @kittywoodoshea @bluebirdjam @brenda_archer @Stillweeping2 @Qyilldrisstessa @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @Hereticalturf @EffinMaggie @TheGoldenMask5 @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @JLippy76 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @h_alliekat @latsot @0Tamahawk3 @StitchingSin @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1 @GoodbyesToLight @89Batmobile89
More generally, life is complex and shifting information sets efficiently is one of the skills that helps us navigate that complexity. The Stroop (or some versions of it) tap into that. It's not necessarily the best measure or the only one, but what you appear to be saying ...
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by drawing on it as an analogy is that you struggle to do that, and that *that* results in your GCism. I wouldn't bet on the Stroop genuinely being a "sensitive marker" for GCism (that's very silly), but in the analogy you're using, that's what it is.
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Replying to @redfollowsred @tatapansepatu @NoRedText @shamanspirit13 @RadFemme74 @richtofenlover @hasitcometothat @vanessa_blk @Biotransgurl @coolaunt2021 @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @MarsJaneM @SocialistSauce @uzidmanslefttit @huntcraw @Dorasalter @fletcherkathy8 @kittywoodoshea @bluebirdjam @brenda_archer @Stillweeping2 @Qyilldrisstessa @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @Hereticalturf @EffinMaggie @TheGoldenMask5 @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @JLippy76 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @h_alliekat @latsot @0Tamahawk3 @StitchingSin @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1 @GoodbyesToLight @89Batmobile89
Right, no "moral judgment" here—it's just a straight-up description of biological fact that some people are broken men, dysfunctional men, defective men. Some are even broken men with visual impairment. This is just biology, Carolina.
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Sure, it *sounds* like there's some moral judgment going on here for not satisfying the normative demand to fulfil the function one is "supposed to" fulfil according to the "design" / "plan." But, nope, definitely just straight-forward biology.
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Replying to @tatapansepatu @NoRedText @shamanspirit13 @RadFemme74 @richtofenlover @hasitcometothat @vanessa_blk @Biotransgurl @coolaunt2021 @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @MarsJaneM @SocialistSauce @uzidmanslefttit @huntcraw @Dorasalter @fletcherkathy8 @kittywoodoshea @bluebirdjam @brenda_archer @Stillweeping2 @Qyilldrisstessa @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @Hereticalturf @EffinMaggie @TheGoldenMask5 @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @JLippy76 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @h_alliekat @latsot @0Tamahawk3 @StitchingSin @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1 @GoodbyesToLight @89Batmobile89
even plainer, "broken man" (x.com/ostrasyn/status/203827…)?

ostrasyn@ostrasyn
Mar 29
Replying to @tatapansepatu @NoRedText @shamanspirit13 @RadFemme74 @richtofenlover @hasitcometothat @vanessa_blk @Biotransgurl @coolaunt2021 @FluffWingBirdie @ladyofcin_1 @BiardMacGuineas @cptmbf @MarsJaneM @SocialistSauce @uzidmanslefttit @huntcraw @Dorasalter @fletcherkathy8 @kittywoodoshea @bluebirdjam @brenda_archer @Stillweeping2 @Qyilldrisstessa @K60617909 @ghostoftoast @whackam0l3lol @Hereticalturf @EffinMaggie @TheGoldenMask5 @f3ck13ss @Catfan2506 @JLippy76 @VelvetLandmine @applecookedback @Lucifer_mortala @h_alliekat @latsot @0Tamahawk3 @StitchingSin @DerpyErika @KeirGale @GenderNeutralWC @JJAngie677204 @ffenics @BolyardLaura @AfterDeathTrut1 @GoodbyesToLight @89Batmobile89
Or is it dysfunctional adult human male?
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Actually, to bring it back to eyesight, assuming he had difficulties with eyesight, would he be a "dysfunctional adult human male with visual impairment"? A "broken man with visual impairment"? Help us out here, Carolina! Maybe use your graphics skills.
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