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@SamBroner spent years at
@a16zcrypto studying hundreds of stablecoin-focused startups.
Mature fintechs, banks weighing their stablecoin strategy, early teams pitching infrastructure plays. The one pattern that kept surfacing: stablecoins were built for trading, not payments.
Before a16z, Broner was an engineer at
@Microsoft, where he built the Fluid Framework that helped re-platform Word from desktop to browser. He demoed for Bill Gates two weeks into the project.
Spent time at the Boston Fed's stablecoin initiative during MIT Sloan, angel invested in Cursor before most people had heard of it, and kept circling back to the same problem: moving from one stablecoin to another still works like a trade, not a payment.
That's when he founded
@bettermoney_co - a stablecoin clearinghouse. Any stablecoin in, any stablecoin out, at a fixed price, with a guaranteed time of delivery.
Its member issuers include
@Stablecoin,
@paxoslabs,
@withAUSD,
@m0,
@moonpay,
@brale_xyz, and
@fraxfinance. Clients include
@tryramp,
@privy,
@turnkeyhq, and
@ModernTreasury.
The Better Money Company raised $10 million from
@a16zcrypto,
@BoxGroup, and
@seedtosunflower, and came out of stealth last week.
Broner's point is simple. You don't sell Wells Fargo dollars at a variable price to get Bank of America dollars. Stablecoins shouldn't work that way either.
@SamBroner sat down with
@dr3wrogers in Brooklyn.
00:00 - "I was living in Beijing in 2017"
02:24 - Paperwork in payments, and why engineers find it ridiculous
06:49 - MIT Sloan, the Boston Fed, and the stablecoin research scene
09:07 - The Fluid Framework: coding under a podium while Satya watched
13:10 - Why making payments a little bit better matters at massive scale
15:08 - Stablecoins are optimized for trading pairs, not payment flows
17:20 - What a clearinghouse is: from London taverns to hub-and-spoke
21:46 - Guaranteed pricing, guaranteed settlement, compliant clearing
25:41 - "Better money needs to be one to one"
31:52 - Instant payouts for gig workers: a weekend build on stablecoin rails
33:49 - Tourists in the Bazaar: how agents will transact
39:58 - Atomic payments and why faster settlement changes everything
44:01 - Why enterprise agent payments dwarf consumer agent payments
47:38 - Selling shovels vs. going for gold
53:24 - What's next for The Better Money Company
Episode 0048, Presented by
@altitude