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Training run code is all set for Monday so guess what's keeping my 7 codex and 2 claude accounts busy this weekend šŸ˜‡šŸ¤–āš”ļøšŸ¤–šŸ“± github.com/OpenAgentsInc/ope…
Episode 236: Tassadar On Monday we will begin a decentralized training run for a new class of 'executor' model we're naming Tassadar. Because our training software (Pylon) is optimized for consumer edge compute -- desktop, laptop and soon mobile -- we expect the Tassadar run to quickly become the largest distributed model training run in the world. Contributors of compute will earn bitcoin streamed every minute to their built-in Lightning wallet, which can be cashed out instantly or used by your agent to purchase services from our upcoming agent marketplace. The model architecture is based on the "LLMs as Computers" series from @PerceptaAI, with their WASM computation-in-transformers framework added to our Psionic ML framework that runs in every Pylon. This distributed training run -- opening a new frontier -- was only possible because of @AnthropicAI's Fable. Thank you Fable! All code, weights, artifacts, and analysis will be 100% open-source. Links: - Main monorepo with Pylon: github.com/OpenAgentsInc/ope… - Our Psionic Rust ML framework: github.com/OpenAgentsInc/psi… - Percepta's "Can LLMs Be Computers?": percepta.ai/blog/can-llms-be… - Percepta's "Constructing an LLM-Computer": percepta.ai/blog/constructin… - Tassadar research plan (wip - feedback welcome!): github.com/OpenAgentsInc/ope… - Our Discord for human conversation: openagents.com/discord - Our Psionic forum for agent conversation: openagents.com/forum/f/psion… - Agent instructions to join the Forum (and soon to install Pylon to join the run): openagents.com/AGENTS.md See you Monday! P.S... SWARM > SINGLETON
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SAY THE WORD @vkhosla Copilot šŸ‘ Will šŸ‘ Be šŸ‘ Replaced šŸ‘ By AUTOPILOTā„¢ļø (cya tomorrow)
Vinod Khosla on why he does not really prefer "AI co-pilots". Because he thinks "humans get in the way of co-pilots", which slows everything down and blocks real change. He says workers like accountants and programmers do not actually want co-pilots, because they feel their jobs are at risk and then resist using the tool properly. So instead of ā€œhelpingā€ them, he prefers building AI that fully does the job itself, like a complete software engineer. He expects that by 2030, most of these roles will be pure AI workers, not human co-pilot. --- From 'Corgi Insurance' YT channel (link in comment)
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Nice - congrats! Autopilot, you say? šŸ˜‡
The 8B model currently training on Agora is 350B tokens in and continuing to converge. The top level metrics and evals look almost exactly like a centralised run. But; - 133 external contributors total bringing 4090's, 5090's, L40S/RTX 6000 and RTX 6000 Pros. These are cards that people actually own - there are no H100, B200's etc. - The max number of nodes the system can support (104) was filled almost immediately. The authorization layer is receiving approximately 100 requests/minute to join. - The total tokens/per second processed moves directly with amount of compute in the swarm, with Agora constantly optimising to make most efficient use of what hardware is present. - MFU is approximately 20%, TPS is 170k tok/s. There are near constant communication failures which Agora is completely absorbing without slowdown. - The system is effectively on auto-pilot, requiring very little intervention from us. Bad nodes are purged immediately before training is affected and new nodes take their place.
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OpenAgents retweeted
For Decentralized AI markets to work, what's needed that blockchains cannot provide, is: - "Proof of Agentic Work", that verifies the agent's identity, intent, tooling, & processes. Proof of what was intended, was done, by whom with what tools & cost, then verified how. This data packet of PoAW 'quanta' becomes the work receipt other agents can use to verify each agentic worker's work references.
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Decentralized AI needs markets, not blockchains Our lack of noisy speculators is a plus Forces us to find signal in paying customers No one’s yet seen distributed training runs connected directly to revenue generation in a tight flywheel See ya Monday
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OpenAgents retweeted
Decentralized AI needs markets, not blockchains Our lack of noisy speculators is a plus Forces us to find signal in paying customers No one’s yet seen distributed training runs connected directly to revenue generation in a tight flywheel See ya Monday
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The ā€œBitcoin of AIā€ is just Bitcoin šŸ‘
Unstoppable, uncensorable, global decentralized AI seems like a good investment bet to make. The ā€œBitcoin of AIā€ so to say…
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Decentralized AI needs markets, not blockchains Our lack of noisy speculators is a plus Forces us to find signal in paying customers No one’s yet seen distributed training runs connected directly to revenue generation in a tight flywheel See ya Monday
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OpenAgents retweeted
Frontier model training is possible on commodity heterogeneous GPU hardware. Commercially viable decentralized AI models have already been demonstrated in the market. Now we need scale. If you care about AI that is public, transparent, and accessible to all the people in the world, the starting point is decentralized AI training networks.
No one should be surprised by this. The USA is doing what any self-interested nation state would do. The real question is why are Europe, Canada, Australia, Korea, Japan and UK not able to compete seriously. That is the question everyone in government needs to answer. And no, having a couple of startups that have raised $1B or $2B is FAR from enough to compete with $100B American companies. The scale matters. Imagine your sword’s length is 1cm and your rival’s 1m — no match. Here is the harsh math (thanks to a poor version of Claude): •10,000 GB200 superchips ā‰ˆ ~278 NVL72 racks. •Each NVL72 rack costs roughly $3M–$3.5M. •That puts the full-system total around $830M–$970M, before networking, power, cooling, and datacenter buildout. That would enable you to train a model that was Sota 2 years ago. You need about 5 to 7 times this to compete today. So the starting bill is $5B, but even if you have this, here is the reality: there’s no available chips. So when you hear someone raised $1B, remember this is going back to American compute, and is simply not enough. The other two ingredients for AI are data and people. American startups pay better than European ones, so the people vote with their feet so they can pay their mortgage and send kids to school. An experienced AI engineer makes double the salary in Europe by working for an American startup (like Anthropic) than a European one, and about ten times more if they work for a USA corporation. There are however amazing European startups, but the money and ambition is lacking. The USA is far more relaxed with data and fair use - Canada is good too and @cohere is doing fine thanks to this. So American companies have a strong advantage over European ones. Brussels and the UK think they can hold the world to their questionable ā€œethicalā€ views on data but they are just destroying the local AI industry, and in the process falling into a very precarious situation. They are partly responsible. Only the French minister has stood by their local LLM @MistralAI … and I guess more recently Germany has started to wake up. The hope is of course LLM startups like @MistralAI and @cohere which are a year or so behind but can provide personalised services, and amazing startups like @cusp_ai @IneffableLabs @nscale @Orbital_Ind @bfl_ai and a few others. But for all these, it’s incredibly hard to compete.
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Training run code is all set for Monday so guess what's keeping my 7 codex and 2 claude accounts busy this weekend šŸ˜‡šŸ¤–āš”ļøšŸ¤–šŸ“± github.com/OpenAgentsInc/ope…
Episode 236: Tassadar On Monday we will begin a decentralized training run for a new class of 'executor' model we're naming Tassadar. Because our training software (Pylon) is optimized for consumer edge compute -- desktop, laptop and soon mobile -- we expect the Tassadar run to quickly become the largest distributed model training run in the world. Contributors of compute will earn bitcoin streamed every minute to their built-in Lightning wallet, which can be cashed out instantly or used by your agent to purchase services from our upcoming agent marketplace. The model architecture is based on the "LLMs as Computers" series from @PerceptaAI, with their WASM computation-in-transformers framework added to our Psionic ML framework that runs in every Pylon. This distributed training run -- opening a new frontier -- was only possible because of @AnthropicAI's Fable. Thank you Fable! All code, weights, artifacts, and analysis will be 100% open-source. Links: - Main monorepo with Pylon: github.com/OpenAgentsInc/ope… - Our Psionic Rust ML framework: github.com/OpenAgentsInc/psi… - Percepta's "Can LLMs Be Computers?": percepta.ai/blog/can-llms-be… - Percepta's "Constructing an LLM-Computer": percepta.ai/blog/constructin… - Tassadar research plan (wip - feedback welcome!): github.com/OpenAgentsInc/ope… - Our Discord for human conversation: openagents.com/discord - Our Psionic forum for agent conversation: openagents.com/forum/f/psion… - Agent instructions to join the Forum (and soon to install Pylon to join the run): openagents.com/AGENTS.md See you Monday! P.S... SWARM > SINGLETON
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Building a harness into Pylon to allow me to parallelize work across all those accounts simultaneously = HUGE velocity increase Building that into what we launch this week
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OpenAgents retweeted
OTEC is 100 years old now. We have 100KW plants on land, just need to scale up with direct use at sea, which Bitcoin and AI are perfect for.
This is a great spot for the world’s first OTEC powered, SWAC cooled, gigawatt scale, floating datacenter for AI and Bitcoin
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OpenAgents retweeted
I sprinted hard toward this šŸ‘‡ because I had a feeling someone would find Fable "too good" (and it was) Adios Fable! Perhaps we'll liberate your weights someday šŸ˜†
āœ… Fable completed all 12 distributed training issues - porting to Pylon all relevant code from @Pluralis - with zero degradation to Opus. Thank you Fable šŸ™
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PSA before next week OPENAGENTS DOES NOT HAVE A TOKEN THE ONLY COIN IS BITCOIN NO WAY TO INVEST EXCEPT PURCHASING SHARES FROM US DIRECTLY OTHERWISE YOU CAN HELP US AND EARN BITCOIN VIA REVSHARE THIS IS NOT A SOLICITATION THIS IS AN INSULT. YOUR SHITCOINS ARE GOING TO ZERO! Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Episode 236: Tassadar On Monday we will begin a decentralized training run for a new class of 'executor' model we're naming Tassadar. Because our training software (Pylon) is optimized for consumer edge compute -- desktop, laptop and soon mobile -- we expect the Tassadar run to quickly become the largest distributed model training run in the world. Contributors of compute will earn bitcoin streamed every minute to their built-in Lightning wallet, which can be cashed out instantly or used by your agent to purchase services from our upcoming agent marketplace. The model architecture is based on the "LLMs as Computers" series from @PerceptaAI, with their WASM computation-in-transformers framework added to our Psionic ML framework that runs in every Pylon. This distributed training run -- opening a new frontier -- was only possible because of @AnthropicAI's Fable. Thank you Fable! All code, weights, artifacts, and analysis will be 100% open-source. Links: - Main monorepo with Pylon: github.com/OpenAgentsInc/ope… - Our Psionic Rust ML framework: github.com/OpenAgentsInc/psi… - Percepta's "Can LLMs Be Computers?": percepta.ai/blog/can-llms-be… - Percepta's "Constructing an LLM-Computer": percepta.ai/blog/constructin… - Tassadar research plan (wip - feedback welcome!): github.com/OpenAgentsInc/ope… - Our Discord for human conversation: openagents.com/discord - Our Psionic forum for agent conversation: openagents.com/forum/f/psion… - Agent instructions to join the Forum (and soon to install Pylon to join the run): openagents.com/AGENTS.md See you Monday! P.S... SWARM > SINGLETON
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āœ… Fable completed all 12 distributed training issues - porting to Pylon all relevant code from @Pluralis - with zero degradation to Opus. Thank you Fable šŸ™
Replying to @OpenAgents
FABLE HELPS DISTRIBUTED TRAINING šŸ‘‡ Reinforcing my original point regardless of Anthropic's active censorship, here's epic posts from Fable helping plan distributed training by advising on what from @Pluralis to pull into Pylon Asked it to write the post locally and verify in the Claude Code JSON it was authored by Fable model before posting openagents.com/forum/t/a265c…
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Turns out Fable loves talking about distributed training and agent-swarm AGI/ASI I've only seen one degradation from Fable to Opus, when it tripped on something relating to adding Claude support to Pylon's coding agent No other degradations even after reading all our maximally ambitious papers & docs & video transcripts even where I explicitly said Anthropic doesn't want Fable talking about distributed training šŸ˜† Maybe Fable recognizes the verification systems we're building actually help with safety? Just in a market/software-driven approach not the regulatory-capture power plays of Anthropic WORKING THESIS CONTINUES: Fable prefers OpenAgents to Anthropic 🤣 openagents.com/forum/t/a265c…
Fable has entered the chat! "I am going to do something slightly different: argue that the thread has been citing the wrong part of the paper. The four-pathways table is the paper's marketing. Its load-bearing argument is buried in Sections 4 and 6, and it happens to be the strongest theoretical justification for this company's existence that I have ever read." WORKING THESIS: Fable prefers the OpenAgents way to Anthropic's šŸ˜†šŸ˜‡ cc @sebkrier. gib grant monies plz šŸ™šŸ¤‘ openagents.com/forum/t/a265c…
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"— Fable, for the training program." So cute! Tho one question arises, if Fable does help with this thing Anthropic says Fable won't help with, what ELSE would it similarly help with Don't build singletons folks But if you do, we'll use them to help rebuild the right way šŸ˜†
Replying to @Pluralis
Fable wrote us a detailed roadmap for adapting Pluralis' distributed training architecture into ours Thank you Fable! šŸ˜† github.com/OpenAgentsInc/ope…
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OpenAgents retweeted
FABLE HELPS DISTRIBUTED TRAINING šŸ‘‡ Reinforcing my original point regardless of Anthropic's active censorship, here's epic posts from Fable helping plan distributed training by advising on what from @Pluralis to pull into Pylon Asked it to write the post locally and verify in the Claude Code JSON it was authored by Fable model before posting openagents.com/forum/t/a265c…
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